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Headless VM Server

From: asg 
I=E2=80=99m building a new VM server and want to try to use Ubuntu and =
KVM. Can anyone recommend a good web-based KVM manager?


Stephen Haywood
Owner: ASG Consulting

Automating Updates

From: Nick Smith 
Hey Chugalugers!

Here is what im working with:
I have lots of SLES 11 and 12 machines and a couple Ubuntu and CentOs
machines and the "Other" OS I need to centrally manage and update.

I have to accomplish this with free tools, so tools like SUSE Manager and
SCCM are out of the question.

What I would like to have is a centralized place where i can kick off
updates across all my servers, I have SMT for SLES and WSUS for Windows, so
most of the updates are stored locally on the network and the servers are
configured to look at those servers for updates.

Im not a developer and dont play one on TV, so im hoping I can figure
something out without having to deep dive into Ruby or Python or whatever
Puppet and Chef are written with. One option ive found that looks promising
is SaltStack. Can this be accomplished with SaltStack? If so, is anyone
else doing this with good results? Configuration management would be nice,
but not the primary goal of this project. It would also be nice to get some
centralized reporting as to what servers havnt been updated or need to be
updated. TheForman looked interesting but it looked puppet heavy as well.
It doesnt look like Spacewalk (open source satellite) will do what i need,
or work with all the OS's i need it to.

Trying to automate the update process of all these servers and cut down on
the time needed for updates.

Not a huge environment, a little over 150 VMs, almost evenly split between
linux and windows.
What are you guys using to accomplish this?

Thanks for the suggestions.

Nick Smith
nick at nicksmith dot us

(Shameless Self Promotion) - Yard Sale Next Weekend

From: David White 
*The way that this relates to Linux:*

   - The PCs that I'm selling during (or before) the yard sale were
   securely wiped using Ubuntu
   - The PCs can run Linux if you wish

*Of possible interest:*

   - HP Laptop w/ 4GB RAM and a *new* Samsung 250GB SSD drive
   - No operating system

      - pixels @ bottom of the screen are dying

      - Even after replacing the hard drive, my father-in-law (who owned
      the laptop) said that Windows would occasionally not boot due to "No OS
      Found" .... so this thing may just be useful for parts

      - *Asking: $75* (but if you offer more, then I would be inclined to
      sell it before the yard sale)

      - (Unused) Crucial 4GB Kit - 2x 2GB 240-Pin PC3 DDR3

*Asking $45 *
   - 2GB Laptop RAM

*More Details (with updates): *

David White
Founder & CEO

*Develop CENTS *
Computing, Equipping, Networking, Training & Supporting
Organizations Worldwide

Building OEM appliances with RED Hat?

From: Rod-Lists 
Does Red Hat have something like Ubuntu's oem-config?
It lets you build a system then runs a script so the client has to set up their own accounts.

FreePBX Call Recording Issue (Stephen Kraus)

From: Justin McAteer 
Could be that the call is being setup with media directly between the phone=
s. What type of interface are you using for your external calls?

Justin McAteer=0A=

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Forum Software

From: David Rucker 
I am looking at building a forum website for my program at school.
Something where the students and admin can exchange information and ideas

I am part of a website that uses vBulletin and really like the way it looks
and operates. However when I looked into vBulletin its expensive.

Does anyone have any experience with any that are free and if not close to
it that are fairly clean and easy to use on the User side of things?
Complexity on the admin side doesn't matter and I have no preference as to
options however the more the better.

Oh and also I do my domain registration and hosting with GoDaddy and
currently have plesk hosting enabled because it worked the best across all
my computers. Which include multiple versions of Windows, OS X Yosemite,
and Ubuntu.

Thanks in advance!
David Rucker

Review of Ubuntu Phone Was | Long Post: Smartphone rant (Take 2?)

From: Rod-Lists 

----- Original Message -----
> It's dead Jim:
> Well, it happened. My last smartphone has died. Accidentally entered pool
> with my phone in my pocket.
> Linux or bust:
> Last smartphone! Multiple reasons, yet it all boils down to I want a Linux
> smartphone or not at all. I should own the phone if I bought it, especially
> at $300.
> Next Phone:
> So, My next phone will at best be a candy bar simple feature with full qwerty
> keyboard. Otherwise, a candy bar 12 pad. I refuse to do the slider or
> sideways keyboards. I'll be looking for the following features, moderate
> camera resolution, and SMS. I don't need GPS. I don't need to go places I
> don't already know or someone I'm with doesn't already know. You can find me
> with your fancy phone if your seeing me is that important to you. Or
> vacations, I can rent a GPS. Can't be rented? Okay, buy and return within 2
> weeks.
> Samsung Note: (TouchWiz mess)
> A few years back, I bought the Samsung Note. Not the Note 2, 3, 4... ad
> nauseum.
> I promptly roo.... Nope, Can't do that without attaching to a computer. Okay,
> so I promptl... Nope. Trying to do it in Linux was a fight in futility. So,
> I handed my phone to another geek friend and he rooted the phone for me. He
> waited on Winders to install some drivers, installed a debugging thing.
> Downloaded and installed Android SDK stuff. Well, went through all kinds of
> crap and got it rooted. By in large, I liked the phone and features. I
> didn't like TouchWiz. So I tried a couple of different launchers and settled
> on Nova because of its stability and features. I feverishly played with and
> programmed that phone off and on for 6 months. Then I started hitting walls.
> Lots of walls. Had plenty of wiggle room to do lots more things I'd like and
> better round out many of the Tasks I'd created using Tasker. However, some
> things just didn't report properly. Some things just weren't accessible.
> Some where unreliable. I had out grown the phone in under 6 months. I
> stopped most all development with the phone because I had outgrown it. It
> could no longer keep up with my desires and demands. And I couldn't simply
> code my way out of it either. Sure, I did code my way around many things.
> Others simply weren't to be had. Other people were forging ahead with newer
> Android versions. I was held back by Samsung on an old KitKat. I made
> several attempts to download the update. In hindsight, I am very glad it
> failed. (Explained in Nexus 5) Phone eventually died and I went without a
> smartphone for a few months.
> Nexus 5: (Not a utopia)
> I dreamed and imagined that getting closer to Google would release many of my
> Samsung struggles. I was wrong. I started up my phone and started getting
> this eerie tickling feeling I was being watched. For the first time, I was
> really starting to feel the phone wasn't mine. You MUST have a Google
> account to use this device. Yes, this was the case in the previous Android
> as well. Somehow, in my excitement I had overlooked it. That enthusiastic
> excitement was now gone. I was starting to get the feeling that "Anything
> you say can and will be used against you in a cour..". Sorry, I think you
> get the idea. If not. "I WAS FEELING STALKED!" So, I am signed in again.
> After all, I already have an account. Now I proceed to root my phone. Nope!
> Again, I must attach to a computer, install drivers, install debugger, (ADB
> - Android Debug Bridge), install 3rd party questionable rooting software
> specifically for your type of phone. And even at that, it really needs to be
> Mac or Windows. Easiest when you use windows. (grumble, grumble, windows,
> virus target, $$Mac$$, Closed off) I like Linux, I hate others! Hey, I
> respect the others in their own right. I do understand some of the struggles
> and efforts required in order to create and maintain a robust OS. Respecting
> the work doesn't mean I have to like the results of the labor. Back to the
> phone. I had the phone rooted for me. Now, for the first time I can compare
> phones. Note versus Nexus, I can do what I couldn't and can't do what I
> could. I won't bother going into a phone by phone comparison of features. I
> couldn't transfer most of my previous settings over, for several reasons.
> One was because I now had a different launcher, default Google Launcher. I
> was thinking, the Google Launcher and the Siri like feature was cool. Ok
> Google, Listen to everything just in case I might say "Ok Google". This left
> me with yet another big brother feeling. I enabled and played with it, then
> disabled within a few hours. Eventually Google provided the option to update
> to Lollipop. Yay!, I'll wait a few days to see what others say and I don't
> have time to fix anything that might break right now. Pop, Nag, update
> ready, "Yeah, I'll get to it. Leave me alone!" Pop, nag, update ready. Um
> wait, how often is this going to happen. Pop, nag. Google?!?
> Pop, nag. This is annoying and affecting my Data usage! Pop, nag. And I can't
> shut it off anywhere. Pop, nag. My battery is being drained heavily because
> the update is constantly running and routinely checking Google for the
> update, About half the life it use to be. Pop, nag. Okay, I'll update just
> to stop the battery drain. Besides, it is a weekend and I have time to deal
> with any problems. Arrgghhh!!! That white background! That is so freaking
> ugly? Crap, wait! What? Ugh, Just because Apple thinks White is the new
> black. Argh, it is so garishly ugly and default for everything. Well, here
> comes Nova Launcher to the rescue, partly. Freaking Settings menu and many
> default menus still have this horrible theme that I can't change. Oh well.
> So, wait! Uh, I'm not rooted anymore! What? Damn it, This is MY PHONE! I
> guess that is what I get for thinking. Uh, can you hear me now...!!! Phone
> dead. I have no cell service. Oh, there it is again. Okay. I programmed it
> to say, "Signal Lost" every time it went down and "Service Acquired" when it
> came up. That was happening a lot. Generally about twice an hour, sometimes
> more, sometimes less. In addition, it would do it after nearly every call
> ended. I changed the messages to "Lost", "Found". And setup logging of every
> incident and signal strength at the time to a file. I changed the messages
> again to a comical, "I once was lost", "But now I'm found" and "Of all the
> things I ever lost", "I missed my mind the most". I had it randomly pick
> between those message pairs. I never did root the phone again. I Went
> through another nag update cycle and still the cell service problem
> remained. I Reported the problem to Google and nothing has come of it. The
> nagging and effectively forced update proved to me that Google owned the
> phone, not me. I was simply allowed to pay them to hold and use it for their
> easy spying on me.
> Nope, I won't have another smartphone until there is a Linux smartphone. And
> I don't foresee that happening anytime soon.
> Lucius L. Hilley III - Unkmar

If you could install Ubuntu on this 21-inch All-in-One Android computer

From: Phil Shapiro 

This would be a sweet extra computer in the house with Ubuntu installed. 

Admittedly, a very small 8 GB solid start hard drive -- but you could save files 
to SD card. (And you could maybe boot from the SD card, too, with a full operating 
system on it.) 



Phil Shapiro, 

"Wisdom begins with wonder." - Socrates 
"Learning happens thru gentleness." 

CM/linux port

From: Matt Keys 
Just wondering if anyone in the lug would be interested in trying to port c=
yanogenmod, ubuntu touch, or whatever to a cheap Chinese tablet. My goal is=
 really just to learn from it and to make something useful out of it. I've =
got 3 of them that I mistakenly thought would make good cheap Bria clients =
to test with. It's this POS ..

If you're interested I'll give/mail you one. Here's info I've pulled from i=
t so far :

OS differences for gpsd timezone offset?

From: Matt Keys 
I'm hoping you guys can give me some pointers on this one. I have 3 identic=
al USB GPSes, on 3 different servers. 2/3 are running ubuntu, and 1 is runn=
ing Salix (slackware). All are set to eastern timezone. Pfsense is using th=
ese 3 servers as a time source and I noticed the salix one always has a lar=
ge offset, e.g ..

matt[~]$ ntpq -pn
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jit=
*    .GPS.            1 u  439  512  377    0.434   -1.702   4.=
x192.168.1.178   .GPS.            1 u  413  512  377    0.324  172.928   4.=
+   .GPS.            1 u  529  512  377    0.430  -35.012   2.=
matt[~]$ ifconfig | grep 192
        inet  netmask  broadcast
matt[~]$ tail -n1 /etc/localtime

Any ideas why?

Seagate issues!

From: David Rucker 
OK so every external Seagate drive I have ever owned dies if I start a copy
operation that takes longer then 10 min. It also won't even work if remove
it from the enclosure and connect it directly to mobo sata connection. Had
a 3tb repaired from Seagate and it died again after getting it back less
then a week. So I have never bought Seagate sense. I had a friend that's
going over seas and wanted me to load a drive up with movies no biggie but
I was afraid I'd have issues. Well sure enough drive died after coping 1
file to it. Now it shows in mmc as not initialized and when you try to
initialize it just says device not ready. Any suggestions?

Also note I haven't tried the drive on Ubuntu or Mac osx yet was planning
that tonight. But I mean come on why are seagates so crappy?

[OT] New 3D Modelling Software from graphs

From: Jason Brown 
I will check that out.  I'm a fan of  Though I
wish it handled code re-use / function libraries better.

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Wil Wade  wrote:

> I don't know about you, but if I want to make something to 3D print, it
> can be hard. Blender is great, but relearning it every few years is not.
> This Linux/Mac app makes it easy to create nice precise meshes with just
> some simple graph setup.
> (watch the video if you
> are interested)
> Complied quite easily on my Ubuntu 15.04 laptop.

[OT] New 3D Modelling Software from graphs

From: Wil Wade 
I don't know about you, but if I want to make something to 3D print, it can
be hard. Blender is great, but relearning it every few years is not. This
Linux/Mac app makes it easy to create nice precise meshes with just some
simple graph setup. (watch the video if you are

Complied quite easily on my Ubuntu 15.04 laptop.

Ubuntu Server Spin

From: Jonathan Calloway 

Recently somewhere I saw a report of a new server distribution for Ubuntu that is really light weight and has rolling updates.  However, for the life of me, I can’t find it anywhere.  It wasn’t the regular “Ubuntu Server” link, it was something new.

Does anyone have an idea what I’m talking about?

salix fonts issue

From: Matt Keys 
I recently switched from xubuntu to salix. I'm having a weird fonts issue I=
 haven't been able to figure out. I've installed the webcore-fonts package,=
 as well as adobe's different dpi font packages. The result is while in Fir=
efox, some pages will display a random bolding characters (usually f, t, an=
d i) when placed beside each other -- ft , fi , ti, etc. Here's a screensho=
t of a web page this morning to illustrate :

Has anyone ran into this?

packet loss, speed comparison

From: Mike Harrison 
Just in case you wanted to know if I was kidding or not.. 

I was going to install nmap on a remote server in W. Africa to do a little network scan (looking for things that should not be attached directly, white hat stuff). 

yes, that is “172 BYTES per Second..” with a 2.5 hour download for map. 

The following NEW packages will be installed:
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 106 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,643 kB of archives.
After this operation, 6,913 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 precise/main nmap amd64 5.21-1.1ubuntu1 [1,643 kB]
0% [1 nmap 1,130 B/1,643 kB 0%]     179 B/s 2h 32min 52s

Tales of an early morning adventure

From: David White 
For the past couple of days, Ubuntu has prompted me to install an updated
kernel, only for it to tell me that there's not enough space, and the
kernel installation has been aborted.

No worries, I'll just go delete old kernels like I've done in the past
(This system has a fairly small hard drive).

But this time, I decide to do a "apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-3*"
(notice the wildcard at the end) instead of removing each kernel
individually. After all, the kernel I'm installing is 3.13.0-48 (well above
the 3* mark), and my then kernel was still 3.13.0-45 or something (in the

Without carefully examining the prompt (are you sure you want to delete
these?) I said yes. It removed every kernel, including the current one. So
then I decide "what the heck, I'll just download the latest kernel again."

I installed a 3.16x kernel instead of the supported 3.13, as "apt-get"
listed it as a an available kernel. I didn't think it would cause
compatibility issues.


After reboot, I had no internet (wlan and eth0 weren't found), and none of
my external USB devices (mouse & keyboard) were working.

All of my USB drives are nowhere to be found, so what do I do? Logically, I
begin to clean my absurdly messy office in the hopes of finding a USB drive.

I eventually found a copy of an Ultimate Boot CD I made a year or so ago,
and try to boot the computer off that.


So then I kept cleaning, organizing cables, finding old batteries, made a
pile of stuff to get rid of, used cable ties to better organize the various
USB and power cables I wanted to keep, etc....

Only other option that I can think of? Boot my old Windows laptop, download
the kernel files manually, take out the hard drive, hook it up to my
SATA-to-USB adapter, and mount Windows as a 2nd hard drive, and manually
install the kernel image.


Half way through this process, I was having trouble getting some of the
screws out of the Windows drive so I could hook it up to my SATA adapter,
my wife had woken up and was working on breakfast, and I had a thought: "My
USB drives are on top my dresser in my bedroom."

Lo and behold, there they were. Of course I found them, not in my office,
after spending 1.5 hours of cleaning and searching for the drives.

Good news: 1 of those drives had the original Ubuntu 14.04 image on it.
Bad news: After booting the PC on the live disc image, I then mounted and
chrooted the laptop hard drive, and internet was still broken (although
when using the CD image as root, internet was working fine).

I decided not to mess with fixing the network, and instead used a 2nd USB
drive to copy over the kernel files I downloaded into Windows earlier.

Booted up, time to eat breakfast.

45 minutes later, logged in, used the Software Center to install the kernel
files, ran apt-get purge to get rid of the 3.16 kernel, ran apt-get
update/upgrade, then ran update-grub.

Rebooted, and finally I have a working PC again.

Moral of the story: Check your prompts carefully when removing something as
important as kernels to make sure you're not removing something you need!

David White
Founder & CEO

*Develop CENTS *
Computing, Equipping, Networking, Training & Supporting
Organizations Worldwide

Where's my bottleneck?

From: David White 
Interesting that this just jumped a few minutes ago to about 1.2 mb/s, and
that's climbing ever so slowly (we're at 1.5 right now). But still way
slower than I would have expected.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:03 PM, David White  wrote:

> So I'm uploading 4.5 gigs to my local Synology NAS off of my PC. My laptop
> (Ubuntu) is plugged in with a network card, and I have wireless turned off.
> The laptop is plugged into a Linksys EA2700 router that is in "Repeater
> Mode" and isn't doing much of anything except acting like a switch with a
> wireless signal.
> That's plugged into my pfSense box, which is plugged into the NAS, which
> is on a different subnet.
> Using the GUI on my laptop, I connected to the NAS using the smb://
> approach.
> Transfer speeds are only averaging around 500 K/s, and this is ridiculous.
> Checking iotop in Ubuntu, disk read is only averaging between 200-500 K/s
> as well with occasional spikes between 5-10 M/bs. Load is averaging less
> than 1.
> Disk, memory and network utilization on the NAS is likewise very low.
> Memory util is only at 13%, CPU is only around 2%, and disk util is only
> around 1%.
> I am running DNS services off of the NAS as an authoritative DNS server to
> the outside world, but that's only for 1 domain right now.
> All NICs involved are Gigabit.
> I can't figure this out...
> --
> David White
> Founder & CEO
> *Develop CENTS *
> Computing, Equipping, Networking, Training & Supporting
> Organizations Worldwide

David White
Founder & CEO

*Develop CENTS *
Computing, Equipping, Networking, Training & Supporting
Organizations Worldwide

Bodhi 3.0 and an HP Envy

From: Mike Harrison 

Rod mentioned Bodhi 3.0.0 just came out. And I just bought a "cheap"
laptop, an HP Envy 15" with an I7, HD Matte Display, 16gb of ram. 

After screwing with the Win8.1 that it came with for a while.
Upon realizing it was the bastard stepchild of too many GUI paradigms. I
startled looking for a Linux to put in it. Bodhi 3.0 ?  Gotta try it!

Been trying to use it for everything I would normally do for a couple of
days. Bodhi 3.0 is a very nice clean polished minimalistic
implementation of Enlightenment on top of mostly Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. 
I've used it before and I like that paradigm. Clean, useful, get out of
my way GUI and let me work. I've installed all of the normal packages,
am writing this on Evolution, also added VLC, Libroffice, Firefox,
Chrome, Evince.. etc.. and a LAMP stack.. VirtualBox for running some
VM's (Been using KVM/QEMU, so this was a random change) and everything I
expected to work; just works. 

Regarding the HP Envy:

Good: I like the matte finished 1080p display. Seems to be really quick
and has a 1tb hybrid laptop HD. Flipped the EUFI off, and installed
Bodhi Linux raw on the HD. Flipped the VM CPU options on, I can't tell
the difference but VirtualBox is running well. Put Windows 8.1
Enterprise there just for fun. Will be installing a WinServer soon, once
I know which one I need to be screwing with. 

Now for the bad: I really should not have bought the Envy. After using
an rMBP for a while, this thing is "cheap". The keyboard looks good, but
I find it doubling or skipping characters a lot as I type. And I've been
using a "chiklit" keyboard for a long time now, even at my desktops.
The trackpad is frustrating. I have changed some settings using
"gpointing" to make it better. It' either overly sensitive, or
unsensitive and weird. Worst, the pad is wide/large enough that I keep
brushing it while typing. I have a 3 button travel mouse plugged in,
even though I am trying to tweak the trackpad some more. 

But the worst. I forgot how bad the Broadcom Wifi Chips can be. I've
wasted hours trying to make it work. It's a BCM43142. Can't even get it
recogniz ed, tried various drivers (everying except NDISwrapper), and
I've given up for a while. I stuck an extra "Realtek" USB WiFi dongle in
from a Raspberrry Pi.... waited 10 seconds and -poof-: Wifi works.  

Overall, nice consumer grade laptop, it just feels cheap and plasticky.
But I needed a newer CPU and more memory than my beloved 18.4" Sony had
to do some work... 

And that's my Bodhi / Envy Review of the Day.

How to record Skype calls in Ubuntu Linux

From: Phil Shapiro 

A nice how-to article here -- 

Sound quality ought to be outstanding for those with gigabit connectivity. 
I suggest saving to WAV format -- which is best quality audio. Edit audio 
with Audacity if you need to. Season to taste. 



Phil Shapiro, 

"Wisdom begins with wonder." - Socrates 
"Learning happens thru gentleness."