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The heck is up with Ubuntu and package stuff

From: Dan Lyke 
So I'm running Xenial on a bunch of boxes, and not only am I having
the appstream-cli pegging the CPU issue (that all the web searches
claim was fixed back in 2012 or some such), but I'm also seeing weird
errant apt-get processes hanging around for days and locking repos and

These are all machines that got updated, but still. WTF?

And I should probably figure out just how to remove the automatic
checks stuff and run my updates manually, but with that in mind, and
given that several of these boxes are upgrades that should really be
wiped and re-installed...

What's a good Debian-based install that has a lightweight window
manager, a decent WiFi manager, and doesn't try to be user obsequious?
Or is it time for me to go Arch?

Tor users targetted in Scotus rule change

From: Rod-Lists 
"The Supreme Court on Thursday approved changes that would make it easier for the FBI to hack into computers, many of them belonging to victims of cybercrime. The changes, which will take immediate effect in December unless Congress adopts competing legislation, would allow the FBI go hunting for anyone browsing the Internet anonymously in the U.S. with a single warrant. Previously, under the federal rules on criminal procedures, a magistrate judge couldn't approve a warrant request to search a computer remotely if the investigator didn't know where the computer was -- because it might be outside his or her jurisdiction. The rule change would allow a magistrate judge to issue a warrant to search or seize an electronic device if the target is using anonymity software like Tor."

Got this today, if anyone interested: Web Developer

Message below, please contact me privately and I'll hand you the contact 

Today a Senior Web Developer contract assignment opened with a Media Giant 
in Atlanta, Georgia.  Experience developing large Web Sites for UNIX/Linux 
guarantees an interview. 

Title:  Senior Web Developer
Location:  Techwood Campus Downtown
Type:  Contract Assignment
Duration:  Multi-year
Rate:  $Up to $70/hour
Available Now!  On-Site Only! 

In this assignment, you will work with a large group of passionate 
technology enthusiasts with great opportunities to experience the challenges 
and rewards of developing one of the largest sports websites in the world, and its associated team sites. Opportunity exists for career growth, 
to work with a large cutting edge suit of web technologies in a casual but 
professional atmosphere. 

The projects include web analytics, streaming video, live scoring, 
template-driven publishing, design implementation, prototyping, social media 
integration, and automated syndication of content. The technology stack is a 
mix of platforms developed in-house, as well as an ever-increasing 
commitment to open source technologies:  HTML, DHTML, CSS, JavaScript, XML 
and PHP. 

This is a highly visible role that will expand your career and professional 

History of chia (WAS: Chattanooga Internet Consortium)

From: Billy 
Our server at Chaco's, Erik, coined the term. When tom and everyone showed up, instead of writing the table number on the ticket, he'd write "chia" as he said the table grew to multiple tables like a chia pet.

An interesting story about Erik.

We used to hang out a bit after I discovered we had a shared interest in AD&D. He was also a cool dude. He liked cows, and the fuel tank of his bike was painted in cow spots for one thing. One day, I asked him about the cows, and he relayed this story to me.

He has a friend that was really depressed and called him one night contemplating suicide. He talked to her for hours, a roller coaster ride, bringing her back from the edge, and subsequently her edging closer to the edge again. All night this conversation continued till the sun was coming up. He felt he was losing her, and out of desperation he yelled into the phone, "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COWS?!?!"

She laughed and laughed due to the ridiculousness of the comment. His friend was going to be ok. Ever since that day, he has loved cows.


> On Mar 13, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Mike Harrison  wrote:
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:22 AM, Jeremy Gault, KD4NED  wrote:
>> Anyone remember it, or being a part of it? Seems I ended up at one of their meetings, had to sit outside at a restaurant in Chattanooga drinking coffee in the cold. That was probably 1999 or 2000. The memories are kinda vague (maybe that's a good thing?) but myself and another fellow at WingNET ended up there.
>> Perhaps some of you can recall it/more details?
> I kinda remember it.. 
> It tried making Chattanooga an “Network Access Point” or “NAP”. because some of us competitors got along:   Chattanooga Online, Voyager Online, Winglet, Dayton.Net, 
> and a social group named CHIA named more about the way the table grew and later we joked it was the Chattanooga Internet Association. It still has a mailing list, but it’s just a few old friends chatting now 

Chattanooga Internet Consortium

From: "Jeremy Gault, KD4NED" 
Anyone remember it, or being a part of it? Seems I ended up at one of their
meetings, had to sit outside at a restaurant in Chattanooga drinking coffee
in the cold. That was probably 1999 or 2000. The memories are kinda vague
(maybe that's a good thing?) but myself and another fellow at WingNET ended
up there.

Perhaps some of you can recall it/more details?

Wi-Fi Routers

From: David Rucker 

I am in need of a new router. I currently have 100mb fiber from RTC and may
upgrade to 1gb in the future. Right now the router I have works well but
with only one device at a time. The speed and bandwidth always gets granted
to the device that started first. I don't need a lot of fancy features just
want something that will work and not too expensive. I do a lot of
downloading, moderate streaming, and some gaming.

Also if anyone has a used one laying around that they would be willing to
part with cheap I'm interested.

Thank you,
David R.

OT: Old Smartphone becomes ultimate remote

From: Phil Sieg 
Happy New Year!

I, like many of you, have struggled with a large and growing collection 
of remotes everywhere I have a TV.

I finally figured out that my phone is the ultimate remote control. Then 
I figured out that an OLD UNUSED smartphone was an even better choice so 
it can stay with the electronics for the wife and kid to use as well.

SO my old android phone is now:

TV Remote
PLEX Controller
Chromecast controller
Marantz Receiver controller with Marantz app (Denon and some others have 
receiver apps as well)
Netflix Remote
Hulu Remote
Logitech Harmony Hub interface

So when I sit down I nab the android remote, launch the logitech harmony 
app and tell it I want to either: Watch TV, Chromecast, Listen to music. 
When I choose the hub executes a macro that turns the appropriate gear 
on, switches inputs and gives me unified remote ability from either the 
smartphone screen or the Harmony remote. i.e. when in TV mode the 
channel up and down is my cable box while volume is my receiver.

PLEX is my goto for most of my streaming, so I set the system to 
chromecast, launch plex on the android remote, start my show, and send 
it to the chromecast which turns the plex app into a graphical remote 
for controlling the stream.

By setting the phone to Airplane mode and then turning BT and wifi back 
on I can get 3-4 days out of the battery. Since it is a handset with 
wireless charging, I just set it on the charger each night and it stays 

The glue that binds all of this is the $100 Logitech Harmony Hub which 
is a brilliant product well executed with fantastic build quality to boot.

This is a poor description of what has turned into an elegant solution.

Hope it helps another person in remote hell.

Phil Sieg
SeniorTech LLC / snapfo-n


"The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds."

Steve Jobs, 1955-2011

Happy Thanksgiving!

From: Chad Smith 
Happy Thanksgiving / Turkey Day / Vegan Family Meal Day / Parade Day /
Football Day / Day before Black Friday / and/or Random Meaningless Thursday
to you all!  (Whichever you like best.)

Thanks for all your geeky, techie, libre insights, rants, excitment, and
fears - even though I only understand about 10~15% of them.

Happy Holidays from the St. Louis branch of Chugalug!

*- Chad W. Smith*

Annoyed with TP-Link

From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" 
WHY do manufacturers re-use model numbers when they revise the product to
include new components? Why can't they just sequence the model number to a
different number when they revise it?

I recommended for my mom a TP-Link TP-WR841ND, specifically because it was
on the list of supported devices for DD-WRT, and it came with revision 9,
which is NOT supported yet.


I finally found beta versions of DD-WRT, but they're turning out to be
unreliable. I just installed the latest beta yesterday after the Wi-Fi cut
out for the second time in a week.

Why is TP-Link, one of the better supported device manufacturers with
DD-WRT, becoming like Linksys? I now don't like TP-Link almost as much as I
hate Linksys.

" 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the
first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all
irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and
warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we=E2=80=99re al=
damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG
episode "The Drumhead"
- Alex Smith
- Kent, Washington (metropolitan Seattle area)

OT: nexus 5 can see a 802.11s mesh (project fi)

From: Matt Keys 
I've switched from verizon  to project fi during the open invitation. I got=
 my sexy new nexus 5x today. That was a freakishly easy and fast turnaround=
 on the DID port. It was nearly instant after I touched "activate my servic=
e". Another thing that I was impressed by was the nexus 5x was able to see =
and list 802.11s mesh id as an available wifi network. Granted it's open/un=
encrypted but most devices I've played with won't pick out a mesh id from t=
he air.

FreePBX Call Recording Issue (Stephen Kraus)

From: Justin McAteer 
Could be that the call is being setup with media directly between the phone=
s. What type of interface are you using for your external calls?

Justin McAteer=0A=

(256) 694-9195

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Disney Making Laid-Off US Tech Workers Train Foreign H1-B Replacements

From: Rod-Lists 
The NY Times brings us a story on the Disney Corporation laying off U.S. tech workers and replacing them with immigrants visiting the country under H1-B visas. The twist is that the immigrant workers are not your nice local visiting foreign guy from the university who wants to stick around 'cause he likes the people here... they are employees of foreign-based consulting companies in the business of collecting H1-B visas and "import[ing] workers for large contracts to take over entire in-house technology units." The other twist? The U.S. tech workers are required to train their replacements before vacating their jobs, or risk losing severance benefits (excerpts of the Disney's layoff notice are included in the article).

Linux has spoiled me

From: Mike Harrison 
Just ranting while watching things download and install on an MS-Server:

I’m building a testbed for some future Linux integration with Microsoft Biztalk, an “enterprise service bus / message queue” on a VM. I’m a few days of playing around, on my 4th install (I’ve made some stupid mistakes and had to start over) and learned a lot. 

Mostly what I’ve learned from the Linux and Mac worlds is: I’m spoiled. 

Linux servers, until you get into really weird stuff, just seem to be couple of yum installs or apt-get’s away from having just about anything you would normally want, up and running. On the weirder stuff, you might have to add a few things from the standard apt/yum/etc repo’s and then either use a private repo or compile something from scratch. Compiling being a rarer option than it used to be, but is still a good option for special cases. 

I’m pretty crusty on MS-Stuff, so I’ve had to learn a lot that I have intentionally forgotten. But what really surprises me is how different the processes are for installing various Microsoft products. Although the “Server Manager” has a decent start with “Add roles and features” it’s a subset of things, and I think it is missing some common essentials. For other things I’ve had to download installers and run them, use “CAB’s” and “Box’s”.. the weirdest one was install a 32 bit version of Excel, on a 64 bit Server OS because “BAM” requires it and won’t work on 32 bit.. I’ve lost track of the reboots, extra installations... uninstalls (SQL Server Express is installed with Visual Studio, but must be removed so you can install SQL Server).. Obscure menu tree hunting to find an option to turn on or off…  I’ve even found and been following several different official how-to’s that do not agree. But it works. Or at least seems to be. I have yet to use it for anything. It’s obvious that Microsoft has groups that don’t “come together” on how to install software, deal with requirements. Microsoft seems to be missing a company/product line wide package manager, and that seems to be a very antiquated thought process. and some things seem to be only available in 32 bit.. like the BI Tools for Visual Studio. Come on Microsoft, why would things you would run on a nice 64 bit server, requiring 32 bit packages for support? 

That a worldwide collective of a wide range of Linux programmer and sysadmins do such a great job of repositories and installations from them, makes me realize how spoiled I have become, and how thankful I am for everyone’s efforts. 

Anyone else get hit by the recent Panda update?

From: Rod-Lists 
A local business which got rid of most of its Macs just got bit by the recent Panda Security update.
Started to quarantine some important .dll's on windows machines.
Apparently it flagged itself as well.

EPB Business class service and static IP's

From: Lynn Dixon 
To build on our conversation from eariler this morning, I contacted EPB to
get pricing on routed subnets and static IP's.

Business class service is the only thing eligible for routed subnets or IP
blocks.  The starting price for the service is $350 per month for 100 meg
service, which comes with SLA guarantees on 99.99% uptime as well as
bandwidth SLA's. With this same service, you get a /28 of IP addresses,
which is 14 useable (16 total, minus 1 for gateway, and minus 1 for the
network ID/broadcast).
Business class is available to any address that is serviceable by the
residential service.

They have various other levels with increased speeds for higher prices of
course, all the way to 1 Gig.  I didn't get pricing for anything above
100meg since $350 made it out of scope for me.

The sales rep did mention that EPB does co-location, but after talking with
them, they only offer it to customers whom are willing to lease a full 43U
rack.  Pricing for a full 43U rack with 100meg service and /28 with 20amps
of power is roughly $1400 per month.

So, there ya have it. At $350 its a bit out of my price range as a small
business, so I will just keep my two machines co-located in Knoxville and
Chattanooga (Peace Communications).  I was really hoping to get a faster
connection with their Business class service, and bring my machines to my
home datacenter.  I have plenty of power and cooling available, as well as
natural gas for a genset. I already have a sizeable UPS as well.

It looks as if EPB is initially targeting medium to large size businesses
with these colo offerings.  I will keep in touch with them to see if they
start to offer smaller rack leases.

MS-Biztalk w/Linux?

From: Mike Harrison 
Anyone out there done any integration with MS-BizTalk with Linux they’d care to rant about?

Just curious.. might have to do some integration with it in the future. 

FBI Seeks To Legally Hack You If You're Connected To TOR Or a VPN

From: Rod-Lists 

Fwd: Great Developer Opportunity in Kennesaw, GA

From: gary hasty 
If anyone is looking for such

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Intel NUC

From: Lisa Ridley 
Anyone here have any hands on experience with these little computers?  I'm looking for an addition to my office for the following:

1.  Persistent Jenkins Server to manage auto deployments and automated testing on a variety of virtual servers (Debian 7, Jenkins, using 2G RAM)
2.  Test Servers for client projects (managed by the Jenkins Server) -- VirtualBox servers managed using Jenkins and Vagrant, running Debian, Ubuntu or CentOS, using 2-4G RAM, configured as a LAMP stack with MySQL and/or MongoDB, running applications written in Symfony2 / Laravel / Drupal.  These servers will be short-lived, and will be used for development, staging and test units, so they will be spun up and down as needed, and will have a lifespan running anywhere from 2 to 6 months.  There will be anywhere from 2 to 6 of these running on one physical unit at any point in time.

The reviews I've read are generally positive, and I like the small footprint and low power consumption.  Looking specifically at one of these units (most likely the 2nd one), configured with 16G RAM, WiFi/BlueTooth and a 120G mSata SSD.

Thoughts?  Experiences?

Lisa Ridley

My two Knight Foundation library newschallenge proposals

From: Phil Shapiro 
Hi Chugaluggers, 

Here are two short proposals I submitted to the Knight Foundation's library newchallenge -- which seeks to fund initiatives that get more community members involved in civic participation via library initiatives. 

If either (or both) of these initiatives resonate with you, kindly leave a comment with your thoughts underneath the proposal(s). As you might expect, both of my proposals have a strong open source component. 

The Knight Foundation will be choosing several proposals from the 680 that were submitted. $2.5 million of grant money will be applied to the selected proposals. The Knight Foundation is hoping to identify those ideas that can bring the greatest value to communities. 

Many of the other submitted proposals were equally intriguing to my eyes. I love how the whole process is out in the open -- as it should be. Some astute high school English teacher could potentially assign his or her students to search for three proposals that resonate with the student -- and then write an essay describing the upside and downsides of those proposals. That would be a real world writing assignment that would bring benefit to students and communities alike. 



Phil Shapiro, 

"Wisdom begins with wonder." - Socrates 
"Learning happens thru gentleness."