Android without Google?

From: James Nylen 
I'd like to run my Android phone without any proprietary Google services,
or as few as possible.  I want control over what servers my phone is
sending data to, and why.  Is anyone doing something similar?
Here's what I've got so far:

Most custom ROMs (Cyanogen, AOKP) separate the google apps installation
from the main OS, so you can just skip that step.

The number 1 thing I miss with this setup is Google Maps.  Right now I have
an old version that I saved and restored using Titanium Backup
.  Number two is probably YouTube,
I have it set up the same way.  Most of YouTube's network requests flow
through Android system processes, which is a little scary to me.

For contact and calendar syncing to my server I use OwnCloud
, and for media syncing Titanium Media Sync

F-Droid Marketplace  works pretty well as a Google
Play alternative for FOSS apps.  There are a couple of potential solutions
for grabbing apps from the Play Store without having it installed:


There's also NOGAPPS
 which was a
project to stub out some of the Google frameworks that many apps depend on,
but it looks mostly discontinued.

ok this is weird, e-mails from South Africa

From: Rod 
Dave is right I must have gotten myself on a list somewhere.

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Sony Xperia V 8GB  | R4,200
Sony Xperia Z 16GB | R4,000

Apple Iphone 4S 16GB | R3,800
Apple Iphone 4S 32GB | R4,000
Apple Iphone 4S 64GB | R4,500

Apple Iphone 5 16GB | R4,000
Apple Iphone 5 32GB | R5,500
Apple Iphone 5 64GB | R6,000

Samsung Galaxy Tab | R3,000
Samsung Galaxy Note II 16GB| R3,500
Samsung Galaxy S III 16GB | R3,500
Samsung Galaxy S III 32GB | R4,000
Samsung Galaxy S4 16GB | R3,700
Samsung Galaxy S4 32GB | R4,200

Microsoft Surface 10.6" 32GB Tablet | R4,000
Microsoft Surface Pro 10.6" 128GB Tablet  | R8,500

Apple iPad 2 Black&White 16GB 9.7" Tablet With WiFi & 3G | R4,000
Apple iPad 2 Black&White 32GB 9.7" Tablet With WiFi & 3G | R4,300
Apple iPad 2 Black&White 64GB 9.7" Tablet With WiFi & 3G | R5,500
Apple iPad 4 Black 64GB 9.7" Tablet With WiFi & 4G | R6,000

Apple MacBook MC207 13" Intel Core 2 Duo Notebook | R3,500
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Apple MacBook 13" White 2.1GHz Intel Core Duo | R4,800
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Apple MacBook Air 13.3" Intel Core 2 Duo Notebook | R6,400
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Apple MacBook Pro 15.4" Intel Core i5 Notebook | R8,500
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Epson LQ-3090 Dot Matrix Printer | R3,500
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HP Color LaserJet CP3525x Printer | R7,200
HP LaserJet P4015x - Black 52ppm, 128MB Std, Networked Printer | R8,000
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CSOA does The Matrix

From: Mike Harrison 

As I know it's a favorite movie of the group,
and many of you need a Valentines gift.. please consider tickets to:

The CSOA plays the Matrix (with Movie!)

[OT] Need an Epson FX-890 or similiar dot =?iso-8859-1?q?matrix=09printer_for_a_day_or?= two.

From: John Aldrich 
I've got a couple Panasonic dot matrix printers if anyone needs 'em. Just 
gathering dust.

[OT] Need an Epson FX-890 or similiar dot matrix printer for a day or two.

From: Mike Harrison 

At $work, we need to see if we can work around known issues with MSIE 8 
and good old fashioned dot matrix printers printing receipts.

Know anywhere/one I can borrow/rent one from for a day or two?

Otherwise, we just might have to buy one.. ($329 on Amazon..)

Mike Harrison - heavily filtered public address

comcast matrix

From: Ed King 
anyone else seeing osd jibberish during certain commericals over Comcast cable?  
or is it just me?

seems like it started doing this a few days ago...  right after I connected my 
mythtv box between the cable box and the tv...    still see the jibberish even 
tho I removed the mythtv box completely...  makes me wonder if my Haupauge 
pvr-150 remote sent some funky ir code to the tv or cable box

the jibberish only appears during certain commericials, not sure how to explain 
it other than its a series of about 40 characters, no discernable words, and the 
last 2 or 3 characters of the line of jibberish are constantly changing...   
reminds me of The Matrix (even tho I've never watched that movie...   I tried to 
once, but it bored me...   1979's Russian movie Stalker, on the other hand, kept 
my attention for the whole 3 hours, and it had very, very little special