Linux @ 23 of 85 top Disruptive Ideas since 1929

From: Dave Brockman 
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On 12/4/2014 8:28 PM, Wil Wade wrote:
> "The 85 Most Disruptive Ideas in Our History" [Our being Business Week's
> 85 year history]
>
> Open Source/Linux (not GNU :( ) came in at 23.
>
> Interesting that Apple was at 10 and Microsoft was no where to be seen
> except that they bought a small company named Forethought at 53.
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/features/85ideas/

And Apple gets credit for the "smartphone" in 2007. Guess they only 
bothered to define a smartphone as an iphone, I know there were 
PDA+phone devices in the late/mid 90s, and I could browse on non-apple 
products waaaay before 2007. I guess Novell and MS actually replacing 
mainframes in the first place doesn't deserve a spot here, but < 15% 
desktop market share, < 1% server market share, and < 15% global mobile 
market share earns you lots of places in this silly list.  Writer/Editor 
is a FanBoi?

And it calls Linux an Operating System, so GNU is silently and 
implicitly included in that statement, because we all know that Linux is 
just a kernel, and without GNU, well, then you boot the Linux kernel and 
run BSD or Solaris or some other weird shit that just makes you feel 
unnatural...

Regards,

dtb


Linux @ 23 of 85 top Disruptive Ideas since 1929

From: Wil Wade 
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"The 85 Most Disruptive Ideas in Our History" [Our being Business Week's 85
year history]

Open Source/Linux (not GNU :( ) came in at 23.

Interesting that Apple was at 10 and Microsoft was no where to be seen
except that they bought a small company named Forethought at 53.

http://www.businessweek.com/features/85ideas/

GNU Parallel (New favorite GNU tool)

From: Chris Keathley 
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Don=E2=80=99t forget the best part of xargs: The `-P` flag


Chris Keathley

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Wil Wade  wrote:

> So lots of you likely already know about and use GNU's parallel every day=
,
> but I just stumbled across it.
> Simple usage to run a command over each of the txt files in the current
> directory, but in parallel, one process for each cpu.
> $ parallel command ::: *.txt
> http://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/man.html

GNU Parallel (New favorite GNU tool)

From: Wil Wade 
------------------------------------------------------
So lots of you likely already know about and use GNU's parallel every day,
but I just stumbled across it.

Simple usage to run a command over each of the txt files in the current
directory, but in parallel, one process for each cpu.

$ parallel command ::: *.txt

http://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/man.html

Should we fork Debian over systemd?

From: Rod-Lists 
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"Who are you?!

We are Veteran Unix Admins and we are concerned about what is happening to Debian GNU/Linux to the point of considering a fork of the project.

And why would you do that?

Some of us are upstream developers, some professional sysadmins: we are all concerned peers interacting with Debian and derivatives on a daily basis.
We don't want to be forced to use systemd in substitution to the traditional UNIX sysvinit init, because systemd betrays the UNIX philosophy.
We contemplate adopting more recent alternatives to sysvinit, but not those undermining the basic design principles of "do one thing and do it well" with a complex collection of dozens of tightly coupled binaries and opaque logs.

Are there better solutions than forking?

Yes: vote Ian Jackson's proposal to preserve freedom of choice of init systems.
Then make sure sysvinit stays the default for now, systemd can be optional.
Debian leaders can go on evaluating more init systems, just not impose one that ignores the needs of most of its users."

read more at
http://debianfork.org/

Android Video Chat

From: "Robert A. Kelly III" 
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What apps do you use/recommend for video chat on Android? Obviously, I
prefer free software and open standards. I'm trying Linphone and it
looks good, but wanted to see what other people thought.
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Scripting Android (CyanogenMod)

From: "Robert A. Kelly III" 
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Does anyone know a way to automatically run a command or script when
Android (specifically CyanogenMod) establishes an internet connection?
For that matter, can you get it to automatically connect to any
available open wifi network?
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Android command-line

From: "Robert A. Kelly III" 
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I recently got a new smart phone running CyanogenMod 11 with the
F-Droid repository that I have been playing with. I wonder if anybody
here has played much with doing things from the command line under
Android. Does anyone have suggestions for things like taking pictures
from the camera or getting GPS coordinates from the command line? Has
anyone tried installing a Linux distro like Debian in a chroot on
their Android device? Also, has anyone played with Firefox OS or
Ubuntu Touch, or have any idea how they compare from a hackability
perspective?
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Ubiquity EdgeMax (ASG)

From: Mark Quering 
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Hey all


I recently sold one of these units to a customer basically to give it a
try. Needless to say at the $100 price point I was pretty happy with the
device.

The unit has a pretty solid build quality. The web management interface is
a little rough out of the box. A firmware update helped quite a bit. I
haven't played in the CLI yet but I hear that EdgeOS is a fork of Vayatta.

The web interface worked well for a basic SOHO NAT setup with a few inbound
firewall rules. Been very stable for the two months it's been in a
production environment. I also did not get to fully test LAN to WAN
throughput of their network processor due to time constraints.

The only odd thing I noticed with the unit I deployed was that it generated
a fair bit of heat. More than I would expect. I also did not need to
contact support so I cannot speak to that aspect of the product. I would
say for the price it's definitely worth purchasing to play with.

Due to my experience with this product and good things I've heard here and
on other forums, I am seriously considering also offering their managed PoE
switches and AP's to my SMB offerings.


Best
Mark

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> For $100 it?s worth a shot. What I would really love to find is something
> of the same size and price point that could run pfSense or m0n0wall. Anyone
> know of anything?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Dan Lyke  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:13 PM, ASG 
> wrote:
> >> Any of you folks have experience with these
> >> http://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/. Looking at
> >> one for my home office/lab network.
> >
> > Guy a few cube openings down from me whose job involves setting up
> > router-ish stuff at our fiber deployments says great things about 'em.
> >
> > I've been super impressed with my UniFi APs.
> >
> > Dan
> > 

Tor non-exit nodes being blocked?

From: "Robert A. Kelly III" 
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Can anyone who is running a non-exit Tor node confirm whether they are
able to access these domains:
www.directv.com
www.brownells.com
www.autozone.com
www.verybestbaking.com
www.meals.com
www.justanswer.com

I had previously found all of these domains to be blocking non-exit
Tor nodes, but I seem to have recently been unblocked, so I wanted to
determine whether they have really unblocked non-exit Tor nodes, or if
they just happened to update the block list during a brief period when
my node was down. I am fairly certain they are all using the same
block list. They are all using Akamai's CDN and I had contacted Akamai
to see if they were actually supplying the blocklist, but I never got
a definitive answer, so I was a bit surprised to find that I have
apparently been unblocked. So, if anyone else is running a non-exit
Tor node, I would be interested to hear if you can access these sites.
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Running apps and heart rate monitors for Android

From: "Robert A. Kelly III" 
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I'm planning to get a new Android phone and would like to get a heart
rate monitor to use with it. Does anyone have recommendations on heart
rate monitors, device compatibility, or running/fitness apps
(preferably free as in freedom)?
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Protecting password files

From: Dave Brockman 
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On 9/3/2014 11:34 AM, Dan Lyke wrote:
> So: What's the right way to put a passphrase on that passwords.txt 
> that'll go into a git repo? Something so that I can update it from 
> multiple places, diffs and merges are all handled reasonably, it's 
> backed up in multiple places, but I'm not exposing my on-line life
> on exposed hosts?

I use a keepass database synced to my owncloud instance.  I used to
store that on a truecrypt volume, but for varying reasons (before it
was EOL) I took that part out of the mix.

Regards,

dtb

- -- 
"Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood
unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be
fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking
equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925
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Hardware donations for library

From: "Robert A. Kelly III" 
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I'm working on a project to get some Linux machines set up for the
Rossville Public Library with some programming tools and possibly open
source media editing. I was wondering if anyone on the list might have
some hardware they would be interested in donating or if anyone knows
of a project that helps to get hardware with open source software into
places like libraries. Also, I'm considering a crowdfunding campaign,
what would you recommend for something like that? I appreciate any
suggestions or contributions, thanks.

Sincerely,
Robert A. Kelly III
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ios remote support was lunch downtown today?

From: Sparky 
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Apple has some config tools available. Maybe it has some kind of remote
config options for profiles or something?
http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/business/



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Ed King  wrote:

> Thanks, thats a good summary article.  I forwarded it to McTightwad but he
> is still asking me to find a way to remotely configure iphone email.  We
> installed an in-house iredmail server last week.  Our old hosted email was
> POP now we have IMAP.   *Before* we made the switchover, we posted
> instructions [with screenshots] on how to reconfigure iphones for the new
> system, but the boss says we are asking too much from our field workers and
> that we should remotely configure their iphones for them.
>
> Excerpt from field worker job description:
>
> "Moderate to excellent computer ability."
> "Proven proficiency of modern equipment including cell phones, fax
> machines, scanners, computers, palm or other hand held devices, GPS, and
> printers."
>
> So are we expecting too much?   The documentation is clear and concise.  I
> had one field worker (a new guy) say it was the most helpful documentation
> he's ever read and offered to buy my lunch when he's in town.   Its the
> upper level folks who are having trouble following the directions.  Go
> figure.
>
> oh, sorry,  am I being negative?    Ok, I'll go home and stick my tongue
> to the Mac Plus flyback and get some positive electrons in me.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 8/14/14, William Roush  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Chugalug] ios remote support  was Re:  lunch downtown today?
>  To: "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group"  chugalug@chugalug.org>
>  Date: Thursday, August 14, 2014, 3:35 PM
>
>  ScreenConnect wrote a
>  nice page about it:
>
>  http://www.screenconnect.com/Mobile-Device-Remote-Support
>
>  TL;DR: Apple is mean
>
>  William Roush
>  william.roush@roushtech.net
>  423-463-0592
>
>  http://www.roushtech.net/blog/
>
>
>  On 8/14/2014
>  1:54 PM, Ed King wrote:
>  > Walked down to
>  Doctor Bldg.     Sorry you didn't get to see
>  me!
>  >
>  >
>  > So...   whats the
>  "best" remote support solution for iphone? (eg: to
>  tap INTO the iphone)
>  >
>  > I can't find one that offers full
>  remote control w/o jailbreaking, so whats the next best
>  thing?   Looked at Logmein, Teamviewer, Bomgar so
>  far
>  >
>  > as this is for
>  Mr McTightwad, I'm looking for the most expensive
>  product available
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  --------------------------------------------
>  > On Thu, 8/14/14, Ed King 
>  wrote:
>  >
>  >   Subject: Re: [Chugalug] lunch
>  downtown today?
>  >   To:
>  "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group"
>  
>  >   Date: Thursday, August 14,
>  2014, 11:30 AM
>  >
>  >   maybe.   depends
>  on
>  >   where and when
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >   --------------------------------------------
>  >   On Thu, 8/14/14, Rod-Lists
>  
>  >   wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  Subject: [Chugalug]
>  >   lunch
>  downtown today?
>  >    To:
>  "Chattanooga
>  >   Unix Gnu
>  Android Linux Users Group" 
>  >    Date: Thursday, August 14, 2014,
>  10:01 AM
>  >
>  >
>    Whole office is on the
>  >   road.
>  >
>    Anyone up for lunch downtown?
>  >
>
>  >
>  >    Rod
>  >
>  >   

WTB BTC

From: Dave Brockman 
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Anyone local have 1.2 BTC for sale (for a reasonable exchange rate on
Cash)?  The new miners I wish to purchase run Linux to keep us on topic!

:)

Unicast via email or cell if you are interested and can meet tomorrow
(Friday).

Regards,

dtb


- -- 
"Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood
unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be
fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking
equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925
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ios remote support was lunch downtown today?

From: Ed King 
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Walked down to Doctor Bldg.     Sorry you didn't get to see me!


So...   whats the "best" remote support solution for iphone? (eg: to tap IN=
TO the iphone)

I can't find one that offers full remote control w/o jailbreaking, so whats=
 the next best thing?   Looked at Logmein, Teamviewer, Bomgar so far

as this is for Mr McTightwad, I'm looking for the most expensive product av=
ailable


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On Thu, 8/14/14, Ed King  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Chugalug] lunch downtown today?
 To: "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group" 
 Date: Thursday, August 14, 2014, 11:30 AM
 =

 maybe.=A0=A0=A0depends on
 where and when
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 --------------------------------------------
 On Thu, 8/14/14, Rod-Lists 
 wrote:
 =

  Subject: [Chugalug]
 lunch downtown today?
  To: "Chattanooga
 Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group" 
  Date: Thursday, August 14, 2014, 10:01 AM
  =

  Whole office is on the
 road.
  Anyone up for lunch downtown?
  =

  =

  Rod
 =

 

[OT] Cable Trays

From: Dave Brockman 
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Just checking before I buy new, anyone have any basket or ladder style
cable trays they need to get rid of?

Regards,

dtb
- -- 
"Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood
unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be
fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking
equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925
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Onionshare and Vokoscreen

From: Phil Shapiro 
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Whoops, that is supposed to be Vokoscreen, not Sokoscreen. 


The way I remember Voko is that it sounds like Volkswagen -- and the 
software comes from Germany. If only there were a Volkswagen plant 
in Chatt. If only.... 


phil 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Phil Shapiro"  
To: "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 9:14:56 PM 
Subject: [Chugalug] Onionshare and Sokoscreen 




This onion looks sweet. (Maybe Vidalia?) 


https://onionshare.org/ 


It would be fun to do a screencast showing a live gigabit file transfer between two 
ordinary houses (or apartments) in Chatt. You could likely transfer 10 GB in less 
than five minutes -- if you had Core i7 computers on both sides. 


Here is the screencasting software that might work well for that task. 


http://www.kohaupt-online.de/hp/ 


If only there were someone from MAKE magazine in Chugalug who could write up 
a blog post about such an experiment. If only.... 


phil 


Oooh, it would be hilarious to show such a file transfer with an insert video of Windows 7 
booting up on a 2008 or 2009 computer. The 10 GB file transfer might complete before 
Windows 7 reaches the desktop. 



-- 
Phil Shapiro, pshapiro@his.com 
http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html 
http://www.twitter.com/philshapiro 
http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html 

"Wisdom begins with wonder." - Socrates 
"Learning happens thru gentleness." 


IRS says free software projects can NOT be nonprofits

From: Mike Harrison 
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Link stolen from a G+ post by Jason Brown..

http://boingboing.net/2014/07/02/irs-says-free-software-project.html?utm

Home Automation and more

From: Dave Brockman 
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Pretend you are designing your dream home (or perhaps are remodeling
and have all the walls torn down and have to run new electrical
service anyway), what would you put in?

Audio/Video/Network/Automation/Alarm/Security/Camera/Paging

Rack full of Linux servers/VMs goes without saying, so we're on-topic.
:)  I've already decided on multiple CAT-6A pulls through-out the
house.  I have been impressed enough with Unifi that I will be using
their wireless, controlled by a Debian VM.  I know some of you have
some awesome ideas.  Feel free to unicast if you don't want to share
on the public forum, but I would enjoy hearing those ideas.

Regards,

dtb
- -- 
"Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood
unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be
fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking
equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925
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