From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ i am trying to use Raspberry Pi's as a TN5250 thin client. I am currently using TN5250 and xt5250 but it will only do a small window. I have tried editing the .tn5250rc file in my users /home but it still will not scale. Also, usually hodling left ctrl and right clicking would allow me to move to a bigger font, but for some reason it is not working. Anyone have any experience to lend on tn5250 emulation and scaling the window full screen?
From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 For a group of non-technical types, is there a simple way to watermark an audio file in such that it could be identified back to a unique copy, and thus the source of a "leak" would be easy to track? I know I could overlay (underlay?) a whale farting at different time spots and track distribution based on the timing of whale flatulence, but that doesn't fulfill the simple part of the equation. And I need something a little less easy to modify than MP3/OGG Tags, etc. Suggestions (aside from the obvious religious war over which mammal flatulence should be used), thoughts, experiences, etc welcome.... And to clarify the intended recipients are non-technical, I don't expect them to replicate this in any fashion, just noting that I don't expect any of them to 1) know what a spectrogram is 2) be able to identify an abnormality in a spectrogram. Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRkTdgAAoJEMP+wtEOVbcdQoUH/2rNUNgVhbO4vTl8t1X02fC+ 35otuS1QqTaho09c3VrKCc+msrTrhs0kfcWZUgOiIEATEfrAto54KX2qkpQMFdi4 OBbuS+EcaPtsN+LM5lMhXu/J5CthtHSik/0aMrUEFrNPVFvIo5Y+vVMGQU3tB3bT xAcaEpIfW3bhdR0Vg+gacFBNLGgNBHNLZHGu4TNpZifMy6KSa9acR+klpfJeEKPh du/eKxhUJgoQD62EknsinTMIq19287Nf+xkj3+1vDAlJ230cpIjSL87HMI1elLPP GUjtHS3l0rcC7mAiBoth9vIxTfRYRIo+ChtJmjDRFeU1y3X2LhrnbYMKOUbKa4U= =qFNp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=14882
From: Nate Hill ------------------------------------------------------ Public access to a pro-quality photo scanner. Come and try it out, you probably don't have one of these at home :) http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/content/new-service-high-resolution-photo-scanning">http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/content/new-service-high-resolution-photo-scanning Cheers Nate -- Nate Hill nathanielhill@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net
From: Stephen Haywood ------------------------------------------------------ Does building a web app on Ubuntu using web.py and Redis count? How about fixing an OpenVAS XML parsing bug in Metasploit using Kali Linux and the OpenVAS appliance? Stephen Haywood Owner, ASG Consulting CISSP, GSEC, OSCP W: www.averagesecurityguy.info T: @averagesecguy On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:06 PM, William Wade wrote: On topic woot! I was just going to talk about what I just finished setting up. Mostly because I hope it will give others ideas and encourage you to get crazy and make something. Thanks to Aaron, I got a Pogoplug at the last swap meet. Now I like to have a home computer that I can log into via ssh to get to files and what not that I need. Also I like to have a web server for testing as well as sending large files. So I have had my main desktop running 24/7. This worked fine but the amount of power it uses is more than I would like. I setup Arch Linux on the pogo plug and setup apache and a few other servers. I did not have and extra usb hard drive that could hold my data that I needed access to from time to time. So I setup wake on lan on the desktop and a script with the MAC address on the Pogoplug. Now I can ssh into the Pogoplug, wake up the desktop and ssh over to it. Nothing amazing, but I think the power saving is nice. And all possible through Linux and open source. What fun little projects has everyone else been doing with Linux recently?
From: Nate Hill ------------------------------------------------------ Fellow geeks on this list may find this exciting. This is something of a game-changer for researchers, both casual and professional. I wrote a little post pointing those interested toward more info. http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/content/digital-public-library-america-live">http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/content/digital-public-library-america-live -- Nate Hill nathanielhill@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net
From: Lee Walker ------------------------------------------------------ Of course the swap meet was last weekend....... I need a HDMI monitor for my sons Rasp Pi. I figured the chugalug guys probably have a few sitting around unused, going cheap ! Send me an email if you have one to sell please. -- Lee Walker lee@codejourneymen.com Principal Engineer 404-405-1194 l.s.walker (Skype) www.codejourneymen.com Code Journeymen LLC 100 Cherokee Blvd Suite #332, Chattanooga TN, 37405
From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ For those of you who use drupal. As always help coding welcome. At least now there is some movement. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Cameron Eagans To: blogapi-list@example.com Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 22:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: A long overdue BlogAPI update Good evening everyone, As you probably know, BlogAPI was successfully funded by a ChipIn in December of 2011, in large part by Acquia (thank you Acquia and everyone else that contributed!). However, since then, I've had some personal issues come up that have made it difficult to find time to work on BlogAPI. I know that 16 months is a long wait for the module, and I do apologize for that. I won't try to make excuses because anything that I can say will not do justice to the fact that it has taken so long to get the module in a working state. I dropped the ball, and I'll own that. However, you might be happy to know that as of tonight, BlogAPI is working with ScribeFire. In the next few days, I'll be continuing to manually test and refine the code so that it works with other BlogAPI clients (MarsEdit is next on the list, followed by Windows Live Writer, Ecto, and perhaps MacJournal). There are a handful of automated tests in place currently. I'll also be continuing to add tests for the functionality currently in the module so that the testbot can tell me/us when I'm doing something wrong. If you have any questions/concerns/comments/rants, feel free to reply to this email. Again, I'm sorry for the delay. Talk to you soon! -- Cameron Eagans http://cweagans.net You're receiving this email because, at some point in the past, you've expressed an interest in the BlogAPI module for Drupal 7. If you do not wish to be included in future updates, please let me know and I'll remove you from the list.
From: Nate Hill ------------------------------------------------------ Hey all. I was going to keep the 4th floor open tonight for a chugalug. But I've had some travel difficulties and was stuck in Detroit last night. Going to have to do the meetup another time, I'm wrecked and need to recover. Sorry N -- Nate Hill nathanielhill@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net
From: "kitepilot@kitepilot.com" ------------------------------------------------------ Got the message below today and I am heading tomorrow to Atlanta. If anyone is interested and want to ride along pls contact me off list. ET ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A Second Look at JavaScript: What You Might Be Missing by Cory Loriot Topic: A Second Look at JavaScript: What You Might Be Missing by Coy Loriot Special Thanks to our Sponsor: CTS will be providing the refreshments for this month's event! Summary: Everyone has used JavaScript, but have you really pushed your JS knowledge to the limits? In this discussion we are going to analyze JavaScript (ECMAScript 5) as a prototyping language and what the means to developers. We will also learn about object design, advanced iteration, DOM Manipulation, event handling, and asynchronous callbacks. We will finish by creating a one-page site that consumes JSON data from web services via asynchronous callbacks. Speaker Bio: Cory Loriot has twelve years of experience as a web and desktop applications developer. He also has five years of expertise providing direct support to the Department of Defense initiatives at the Defense Activity for Non-Traditional Education Support (DANTES) and the Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC). Mr. Loriot is a strong enterprise application developer using the Microsoft development toolset. He has integrated legacy applications and business processes into SharePoint Portal Server (SPS) 2003 and Microsoft Office SharePoint Server (MOSS) 2007 technologies, as well as SharePoint Server 2010. He has also designed enterprise web applications using ASP.Net and ASP.Net MVC. He has a solid understanding of database design methodologies and implementat ion using both Microsoft SQL Server and Oracle. Mr. Loriot is currently a candidate for the Microsoft Certified Master (MCM) of SharePoint 2010. Date: Tuesday, March 12th at 6:30pm Location: 950 East Paces Ferry Road NE, Suite 2155 (21st floor), Atlanta, GA 30326 Parking: FREE Parking is available in the MARTA Parking Lot located directly across the street from the building. Please do not park in the One Atlanta Plaza building parking lot because parking is no longer free there. RSVP: Food and drinks will be provided, so please RSVP to this event ONLY is you are able to attend. If your status changes, please make sure to update the website! Website: http://www.meetup.com/AMDEV-Atlanta-Microsoft-Developers/
From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Late night window shopping for a new USB 3.0 Hub last night. Anyone have a good reason why I don't want one of these? http://www.mondohub.com/ Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRYZH4AAoJEMP+wtEOVbcdxo8H/RVQs7nTPpRu/DRo9vSkqJnp asCeUE10YcY4zHzHGYB3Y/GVfaUlrTtBnLjlcSek09eVzehGWw8CovAweAbuHU4B Y0P7Q7wId6ZYq2Wkp5rRCeinWPJ80nxcGbx+dczqB0hAnRthg2LIY+7TJ777lRuq e7Y/lvFJnnQ9q/4JLS58YhvGD3xj7taa+VAb5dgKihbeG3rKJOlCGBthWKqTvlcO CgEFfpaVvbO2pNXrhpDFJZuf9i8ueqqdHfOnaHpq2lkQGgkZ1kLjJPDu1oUO0EPm LQe65n/D3I825/SGql0JBiqKQDBsEud3kVQAhyLZ6GRN8+Z4AZwULGKdMg96XCM= =/C8K -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ With the closing of Lucas arts a lot code is being released to the public. http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/04/star-wars-jedi-knight-source-code/ Here is Jedi outcast. http://sourceforge.net/projects/jedioutcast/ And Jedi Academy http://sourceforge.net/projects/jediacademy/
From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IBM
From: Luke Prince ------------------------------------------------------ I should be able to make that! See you then! Luke On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:44 AM, wrote: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 10:47:51 -0400 > From: Nate Hill > To: CHUGALUG > Subject: [Chugalug] calling a chugalug! > Message-ID: > vBNQ8sGFEE9P20NL2uqgksQYodTZsyTEJvEg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > You know what, I've been getting enough email about people wanting to > either teach a class or make a kiosk system that I'm going to take the > plunge and call a meeting! > > On Thursday April 11: 6:00 PM on The 4th Floor, c'mon over and lets solve > some problems. > > N > > -- > Nate Hill > nathanielhill@gmail.com > http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ > http://www.natehill.net > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://chugalug.org/pipermail/chugalug/attachments/20130403/6f8bfd10/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------
From: Nate Hill ------------------------------------------------------ You know what, I've been getting enough email about people wanting to either teach a class or make a kiosk system that I'm going to take the plunge and call a meeting! On Thursday April 11: 6:00 PM on The 4th Floor, c'mon over and lets solve some problems. N -- Nate Hill nathanielhill@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net
From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ How I got this I don't know. But those off you who can travel or in the area you might check this out. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: AIM Institute To: rod-lists@epbfi.com Sent: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Discover the Magic - April Events AIM Events [http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001VN5SZOqjMZ6rz6
From: Luke Prince ------------------------------------------------------ I love the idea of a Raspberry Pi kiosk and would happily volunteer some time to help set it up on that platform. I have always wanted to play with one, and this could be the perfect opportunity! On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:01 AM, wrote: > Send Chugalug mailing list submissions to > chugalug@chugalug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > chugalug-request@chugalug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > chugalug-owner@chugalug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Chugalug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Linux volunteer opportunity (Kiosk station) (Mike Robinson) > 2. Re: Linux volunteer opportunity (Kiosk station) (Darren Breidigan) > 3. Re: Intro to Python class at the library (Dan Eveland) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 07:05:55 -0500 > From: Mike Robinson > To: chugalug@chugalug.org > Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Linux volunteer opportunity (Kiosk station) > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The usual way to run a kiosk-station is to configure a user-name (often > password-free, often always-logged-on by default) which runs the kiosk > application directly as its "shell." Thus, when that user logs-on, the > kiosk is running; when the kiosk program ends for any reason, the user is > now by definition logged-off. Or, if you want a GUI, select a > window-manager such as Matchbox which is designed for this purpose. > > > http://serverfault.com/questions/59329/im-looking-for-secure-linux-kiosk-software > > http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/linuxkiosk/intro.htm > > http://www.engineering.uwaterloo.ca/twiki/bin/view/Linux/LinuxKiosk > > http://www.flatcoder.co.uk/how-to-build-a-secure-kiosk-operating-system/ > > > --------- > Mike Robinson > Technical Director > Sundial Services International, LLC > http://www.sundialservices.com > miker@sundialservices.com > (615) 268-3829 > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mike-robinson/51/532/5a > > > > > I'm not a guru but, I think some kind of kiosk would not be out of my > reach. > > > > Maybe Lubuntu with Firefox in kiosk mode? > > > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/r-kiosk/ > > > > > > On 04/01/2013 11:58 AM, Nate Hill wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> As part of our 3D printing service we are offering at the library, > >> with thanks to some help from James and Bill of Engage 3D, we now have > >> 4 formerly retired and discarded computers running Ubuntu. The plan > >> is to have those running as Tinkercad stations, but Tinkercad is going > >> away (lame) so we'll use something else. Obviously we can do a lot > >> more than just this with these machines. > >> > >> I know there are some Linux based kiosk systems out there; setups that > >> allow people to schedule reservations of computers. We don't yet have > >> the demand that we need something like this, but I'm hoping as we > >> expand hours and services on The 4th Floor this will really grow into > >> a public computer lab running all open source goodies. > >> > >> I've got a machine that could be tasked as the 'computer signup > >> station'. Does anyone on this list want to give this project a shot? > >> We'd love to have you. > >> > >> Nate > >> > >> -- > >> Nate Hill > >> nathanielhill@gmail.com > >> http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ > >> http://www.natehill.net > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://chugalug.org/pipermail/chugalug/attachments/20130403/2813f869/attachment-0001.html > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: smime.p7s > Type: application/pkcs7-signature > Size: 2116 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: http://chugalug.org/pipermail/chugalug/attachments/20130403/2813f869/attachment-0001.bin > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:47:23 -0400 > From: Darren Breidigan > To: chugalug@chugalug.org > Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Linux volunteer opportunity (Kiosk station) > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thanks for the links. > > Some suggest running the whole thing off a flash drive. > > It could probably all be done on a Raspberry Pi. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 10:01:21 -0400 > From: Dan Eveland > To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group > > Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Intro to Python class at the library > Message-ID: > L2n5KYwgSOQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am Nate's web guy. I have now made it much more obvious when registering > to show if you are on the wait-list. It was way too subtle with small text. > Basically anyone who registered after 7:30PM on April 1st is on the wait > list. I see Michael Scholten in the class and Lynn Dixson on the wait list. > Feel free to email me directly if you would like me to check. > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Michael Scholten >wrote: > > > Thanks Nate > > On Apr 2, 2013 7:47 PM, "Nate Hill" wrote: > > > >> Hey > >> I will follow up with my web guy and see what's up with registered folk > >> vs wait list folk > >> Thanks > >> > >> On Tuesday, April 2, 2013, Lynn Dixon wrote: > >> > >>> Michael > >>> I didn't get any response other than the confirmation on the webpage. > >>> Hopefully we were able to get in the class! > >>> On Apr 2, 2013 7:22 PM, "Michael Scholten" > wrote: > >>> > >>>> (in late response to you Lynn...) I signed up. Pretty certain I am in > >>>> the first 25 as there were still 2 slots open after I put my name in > >>>> although I can't be sure. Should we/I have gotten any sort of > confirmation > >>>> Nate? Email or otherwise? > >>>> > >>>> -Michael > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:18 PM, rdflowers wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Simple interactions with a database, examples of actual code that are > >>>>> fairly simple, BUT are beyond the "Hello, World" stage, > python.orgmailing lists, getting new modules from > >>>>> python.org or elsewhere, hashes, sets, multisets, tips and tricks; > >>>>> or, some non-crowded subset of all that. > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Message from stephen@averagesecurityguy.**info --------- > >>>>> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:16:25 -0400 > >>>>> From: Stephen Haywood > >>>>> > >>>>> Reply-To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group >>>>> chugalug@chugalug.org> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Intro to Python class at the library > >>>>> To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group >>>>> chugalug@chugalug.org> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> What specific things would you expect a 102 course to cover? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Stephen Haywood > >>>>>> Owner, ASG Consulting > >>>>>> CISSP, GSEC, OSCP > >>>>>> T: @averagesecguy > >>>>>> W: averagesecurityguy.info > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- End message from stephen@averagesecurityguy.**info ----- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> R. D. Flowers, Chattanooga, TN, USA > >>>>> http://chalice.us/poe/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>
From: Mike Robinson ------------------------------------------------------ The usual way to run a kiosk-station is to configure a user-name (often = password-free, often always-logged-on by default) which runs the kiosk = application directly as its "shell." Thus, when that user logs-on, the = kiosk is running; when the kiosk program ends for any reason, the user = is now by definition logged-off. Or, if you want a GUI, select a = window-manager such as Matchbox which is designed for this purpose. = http://serverfault.com/questions/59329/im-looking-for-secure-linux-kiosk-s= oftware http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/linuxkiosk/intro.htm http://www.engineering.uwaterloo.ca/twiki/bin/view/Linux/LinuxKiosk http://www.flatcoder.co.uk/how-to-build-a-secure-kiosk-operating-system/ --------- Mike Robinson Technical Director Sundial Services International, LLC http://www.sundialservices.com miker@sundialservices.com (615) 268-3829 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mike-robinson/51/532/5a >=20 > I'm not a guru but, I think some kind of kiosk would not be out of my = reach. >=20 > Maybe Lubuntu with Firefox in kiosk mode? >=20 > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/r-kiosk/ >=20 >=20 > On 04/01/2013 11:58 AM, Nate Hill wrote: >> Hi all, >>=20 >> As part of our 3D printing service we are offering at the library,=20 >> with thanks to some help from James and Bill of Engage 3D, we now = have=20 >> 4 formerly retired and discarded computers running Ubuntu. The plan=20= >> is to have those running as Tinkercad stations, but Tinkercad is = going=20 >> away (lame) so we'll use something else. Obviously we can do a lot=20= >> more than just this with these machines. >>=20 >> I know there are some Linux based kiosk systems out there; setups = that=20 >> allow people to schedule reservations of computers. We don't yet = have=20 >> the demand that we need something like this, but I'm hoping as we=20 >> expand hours and services on The 4th Floor this will really grow into=20= >> a public computer lab running all open source goodies. >>=20 >> I've got a machine that could be tasked as the 'computer signup=20 >> station'. Does anyone on this list want to give this project a shot?=20= >> We'd love to have you. >>=20 >> Nate >>=20 >> --=20 >> Nate Hill >> nathanielhill@gmail.com >> http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ >> http://www.natehill.net >>=20
From: Nate Hill ------------------------------------------------------ Some great news from the 4th Floor that might be of interest to chugaluggers. ** * * *We are now partnering with Engage 3D to offer an introductory Python class. Python is a computer programming language heralded for both its accessibility to novices and its power and flexibility.* ** Our goal is to offer a course that introduces the power of computing, both its capabilities and its limitations, so that you feel comfortable reading and writing code. If you have ever wondered how computer programs are written or have some projects that you think computer programming could help with, come join in and learn with us! An eight-week session beginning April 15 is enrolling now. Your instructors will be from Engage 3D, the folks at Maker Day who brought in all the cool fun educational activities like the 3D scanning station and their 3D video conferencing project. If you spent any time in the Tinkercadlab, the computer dissection table, or at the origami station, you probably met someone from Engage 3D. This free class will be great but space is limited so please register through the Chattanooga Public Library=92s online calendar. ** What: Community Py -- Introduction to the Python programming language Where: 4th Floor of the Chattanooga Public Library When: Mondays from 6pm-7pm beginning April 15 through June 3 Cost: Free *Registration*: This class is limited to 24 people and pre-registration is required.* *Details: You are welcome to bring your own laptop but there are also workstations available. --=20 Nate Hill nathanielhill@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net
From: Nate Hill ------------------------------------------------------ Hi all, As part of our 3D printing service we are offering at the library, with thanks to some help from James and Bill of Engage 3D, we now have 4 formerly retired and discarded computers running Ubuntu. The plan is to have those running as Tinkercad stations, but Tinkercad is going away (lame) so we'll use something else. Obviously we can do a lot more than just this with these machines. I know there are some Linux based kiosk systems out there; setups that allow people to schedule reservations of computers. We don't yet have the demand that we need something like this, but I'm hoping as we expand hours and services on The 4th Floor this will really grow into a public computer lab running all open source goodies. I've got a machine that could be tasked as the 'computer signup station'. Does anyone on this list want to give this project a shot? We'd love to have you. Nate -- Nate Hill nathanielhill@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net