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OT: Jeff Kell

From: Matt Keys 
I'm sad to read about the passing of Jeff Kell today. My condolences to fam=
ily and friends on the list.


Jeffrey Ralph Kell - View Obituary & Service Information
Share Memories and Support the Family.

New $5 Raspberry Pi computer

From: Phil Shapiro 

In case you haven't heard yet... 




Phil Shapiro, 

"Wisdom begins with wonder." - Socrates 
"Learning happens thru gentleness." 

Pryvate app

From: John Aldrich 
Has anyone seen this:

Bash Scripting Question

From: Dean Warren 
Hey guys,
 I am running a game server that is hosting a couple of old BBS doors. The
front end is an interesting telnet to http/https front end called fTelnet
and the doors are hosted thru GameSrv
. I am attempting to create a start up script called
gamesrv to place in /etc/init.d to start the service on boot. Here is the
code thus far:
gamesrv script

#! /bin/sh
# Provides: gamesrv
# Required-Start: $remote

OT:Estate Sale Home on Chickamauga Lake

From: Rod-Lists 
This is nice spot and I know some of you have loose change and like to pick up property
Tonight at 6. heirs motivated to sell.

Friendly hackers break into a utility and make a point

From: David White 

David White
Founder & CEO

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Computing, Equipping, Networking, Training & Supporting
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SugarCRM (was Fw: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

From: Ed King 
Sent a message to Chugalug last night, never saw it come thru.   But I did =
get a bounce back from david.dupre

Anyway, what I was askin' in the original email:     are there any SugarCRM=
 programmers on the list?


--- On Mon, 10/5/15,  wrote:

> From: 
> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> To:
> Date: Monday, October 5, 2015, 10:53 PM
> This is an automatically generated
> Delivery Status Notification.
> =

> Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, due
> to being unable to connect successfully to the destination
> mail server.
> =

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Neat internet trick

From: James Nylen 
How does this work?  If I wanted to set up something like this for funs,
what would I need to do and what services would each of those nodes need to
be running?

$ traceroute
traceroute to (, 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  * * *
 8 (  21.477 ms  24.221
ms  21.869 ms
 9 (  55.525 ms (  51.951 ms (  49.957 ms
10 (  51.782 ms
50.425 ms  51.625 ms
11 (  53.756 ms  48.562 ms  49.646 ms
12 (  47.068 ms  45.089 ms  48.518
13 (  49.208 ms
45.314 ms  45.082 ms
14 (  50.462 ms  47.543 ms  45.513 ms
15 (  55.528 ms  49.505 ms  49.571 ms
16 (  54.803 ms  55.826 ms  53.611 ms
17 (  62.758 ms  62.221 ms  60.959 ms
18  he.rides.across.the.nation (  73.691 ms  73.012 ms
66.573 ms
19  the.thoroughbred.of.sin (  71.165 ms  72.175 ms  71.386
20 (  82.636 ms  79.660 ms  75.652
21 (  81.777 ms  83.311 ms  80.820 ms
22  it.needs.evaluation (  85.953 ms  86.562 ms  92.132 ms
23 (  95.745 ms  89.836 ms  89.666
24  a.heinous.crime (  98.979 ms  95.644 ms  104.596 ms
25 (  101.860 ms  100.216 ms  99.329 ms
26 (  111.036 ms  111.153
ms  108.151 ms
27 (  113.551 ms  111.576 ms  113.471 ms
28 (  116.611 ms  114.432 ms  115.289 ms
29 (  122.541 ms  117.386 ms  122.047 ms
30  he-s.bad (  127.537 ms  125.527 ms  126.333 ms
31  the.evil.league.of.evil (  130.988 ms  134.525 ms
130.833 ms
32 (  134.971 ms  139.889 ms
136.452 ms
33 (  142.439 ms  146.276 ms
142.599 ms
34 (  150.289 ms  147.919 ms
155.444 ms
35 (  155.131 ms  155.064
ms  152.942 ms
36 (  158.542 ms  154.846 ms
166.999 ms
37  o

Favorite Android anti-malware app

From: John Aldrich 
What's everyone's favorite app for anti-malware on Android devices? My
LG came with Cheetah Mobile's anti-virus/anti-malware. I've had some ads
start popping up on my phone lately when I unlock apps locked by CM, so
I wonder why they're not being caught by CM. I'm trying to scan with
Malware Bytes right now, but it keeps crashing for some reason. :(

  John Aldrich

Microsoft Linux

From: John Aldrich 
Dont' know if you guys saw this, or not...

My question is did they abide by the GPL or did they make it
closed-source and corrupted the way they do most everything else they

  John Aldrich

WTB: el cheapo ipad

From: Keith 
Do you have a minimum generation? I think I have a Gen 1 you can have but
it won't run the latest software and I don't know the status of the battery

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 5:17 PM Ed King  wrote:

> checking to see if anyone has a cheap ipad fer sale
> low memory and wi-fi is ok, the key word here is cheap
> ps: what ever happened to Chad Smith, I just realized I haven't seen a
> post from him in a long time.

Xlink: Ham Radio, Linux ,GO, & Winlink

From: Rod-Lists 
I'm about to change my callsign to one that references linux.
And I'm taking training for the WINLINK network which is used by TEMA.
I want

GAWD is this community sooo pro MS!
There is a Linux Client (CLI) that must be compiled.
Ditto for the linux version of the RMS Gateway program (middleware server).
I even found GUI Wrappers written in GO for a potential client.

Attempts to port winmor(SOUND CARD MODEM) have stalled. WINMOR was written in .NET.
A new project to replace WINMOR geared to cross platform use IS WRITTEN IN C#!
And will still need MONO to run.

Wi-Fi issues

From: John Aldrich 
Hey, guys and gals... I've got a weird Wi-Fi issue. I had to reset my
router (TP-Link TLWR1043ND) yesterday because I couldn't remember the
login. I've got it working now, but I can't get my phone to connect up.
It keeps saying "avoided due to poor internet connection." My PCs work
fine, as best I can tell. Any ideas????

  John Aldrich

New (rebuilt) Linux box

From: John Aldrich 
Picked up a PS2 to USB adapter at lunch today. Now my Linux box is
running like a charm on the new hardware. :) Still need to break down
and pick up a USB KVM, but that's on the back burner now that I have
things running with the PS2 to USB adapter.

  John Aldrich

Linux-friendly KVM

From: John Aldrich 
Hey, anyone got a recommendation for a Linux-friendly KVM switch?
Preferably one that will translate PS2 to USB. I don't really want to
buy a new keyboard and mouse, when the ones I have work fine. I just
need to convert them to USB so I can get rid of the PS2 to USB
converters I have for my two Dell boxes and am about to buy for my
rebuilt Linux box. Unfortunately, my new motherboard, in addition to
only having HDMI out for on-board video only take PS2 for mouse, and
requires you to use a USB keyboard. Also, unfortunately, my current KVM
doesn't do USB. :(
I'm finally ready to abandon PS2 connections to my computers, but I
really dont' want to buy a new keyboard and mouse. :) HELP!!!!

  John Aldrich

You always learn some things when sniffing..

From: Mike Harrison 
Been playing at home for the night.. Mostly with some Ubiquity Bullet M2’s and various software loads. And a few Linux and Mac devices.

I’m really liking the hardware, form factor, etc.. the two best loads are the default AirOS from Ubiquity. Unless you are doing weird stuff, it’s polished and does everything you would want. You have to turn off some Ubiquity specific features for it to play nice with older hardware/OS’s, like setting the speed to 20mbps. No flaming reason to use anything else for most uses. I’m impressed. 

On the playing around side: Very nicely tuned up for doing a HAM style emergency mesh/ad-hoc network. It has preconfigured web menu’s for the common deployments that a ham organization would want. Which also makes it hard to do something it does automagically do. 

Then I played again with Commotion. I like where they seem to be going and they are trying to make a friendly easy to use interface that other less technical people should be able to use to add their hardware to a mesh. They may have an Android app and a Laptop app that would allow them to join as mesh nodes in the future, rather than standard WiFI clients. Sounds good. In Theory. In practice, it’s a work very much in progress based on the Luci web interfaces that the standard OpenWRT install is on. Lots of things don’t seem to work well, like the initial “set the admin password” page. Frustrating. 

OpenWRT. in true geek fashion is fairly minimal on “slick” and robust on “it works”. As I started to add some packages to the most recent install, I’m blown away by the things that easily install and just seem to work:  Including iptraf, aircrack  (very useful tools).. 

I’ve given up on the “mesh” idea for now, because a solid AP and single Repeater will work for my remote event management needs I have coming up this fall. To do those things, I have a minimal web chat system (auto-updates across the people/devices using it.. ) and Dokuwiki running on a netbook as a server and upstream gateway. Should do what needs to be done: bringing a portable intranet and possibly upstream to the net to interesting places.

Part of playing around is sniffing your own home and devices. I used to do this a lot. It’d been a while. Using sniffit, iptraf airdump and OpenWRT, I found some devices I had forgotten about, and found that even seemingly properly working devices sure chatter a lot more than they used to. What is Google Chrome doing when it is doing nothing.. not even a window open. Cripes it is busy. 

No matter how you do it, I’m tossing out the idea that you might want to sniff your local home traffic every once in a while, and verify everything that is on it should be, and is behaving properly. 

And now.. time to do some remote database maintenance.. Sigh.. 



From: John Aldrich 
I purchased an android-based fitness tracker off Alibaba. I never could
get it to connect to my phone, so I never used it. If anyone is
interested in "hacking" on it, let me know and I'll give it to you.
Don't need any money for it. :)

  John Aldrich

Strange problem

From: John Aldrich 
I've got a weird problem and I don't know what the solution is... I can
log into GMAIL via my browser just fine, but I can't log in via my email
client (KMail.) I'm on Fedora 21, if that matters. KMail 4.14.9. Same
version of KDE installed. Any suggestions? I've tried other mail
clients, but found them lacking a lot of the features of KMail.

  John Aldrich

A Mesh MetroNet

From: Mike Harrison 
Multiple things, including some recent network weirdness… conversations with Shawn Stoddard and other curious confluences of things have me playing with some wireless mesh-isn “wide" area networking.!forum/chattanooga-mesh-networks

Are some relevant links. 

I may not be playing much more until next week, I’ve got a nice laptop re-tasked as a mobile server and gateway (Linux of course!) and I’m working on some relevant applications for that server that would make this a useful thing even without an upstream connection. 

The Ham guys may have their own version they are playing with. Maybe I can be interoperable. I’d like to use (mostly just to play with, nothing nefarious) as much encryption as practice. 

I started playing with CommotionWireless, which is really an interface (web) over OpenWRT and OLSR.. As much as I found it a good place to start, I seem to be better at messing with OpenWRT and such from an SSH prompt, so I may do more playing that way. 

It’s Linux based. It’s more fun to play with these if others play as well.. 

Open invitation for a gathering of interested parties at my house next Wednesday night. August 12th, 6pm until ???? at 1031 Lower Brow Road, Signal Mtn. Bring toys/tools, lets see if we can get them to interoperate or at least discuss the possibilities.

Winmor and ARDOP are looking for people to port to OSX &Linux

From: Rod-Lists 
Both are sound card modems that allow a computer to interact with a ham radio for data transmissions.
 WINMOR relies on DirectX/.NET sound API programming which may or may not work in mono.
However supposedly >NET has been open sourced so that may help.
Or someone could write and implementation of the spec in another language.

ARDOP is in beta now and is supposed to be the next gen.