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Dell Minis for Sale

From: "Daniel L. Appleget" 
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I have 3 Dell "mini"'s that I would like to sell. These beasts have the 
elite Z520 Intel Atom processor.
Make me a offer, take them from me at Mike's house. Details these do not 
seem to have a hard drive but do post.


AKA Inspiron 1210



-- 
Daniel Appleget
Chattanooga Computer Service
http://www.chattanoogacomputerservice.com/
423-760-0879

Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito


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FreePBX Call Recording Issue (Stephen Kraus)

From: Justin McAteer 
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Could be that the call is being setup with media directly between the phone=
s. What type of interface are you using for your external calls?
Thanks=2C=0A=

Justin McAteer=0A=

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Review of Ubuntu Phone Was | Long Post: Smartphone rant (Take 2?)

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
http://www.businessinsider.com/meizu-mx4-ubuntu-edition-review-2015-7

----- Original Message -----
> It's dead Jim:
> Well, it happened. My last smartphone has died. Accidentally entered pool
> with my phone in my pocket.
> 
> Linux or bust:
> Last smartphone! Multiple reasons, yet it all boils down to I want a Linux
> smartphone or not at all. I should own the phone if I bought it, especially
> at $300.
> 
> Next Phone:
> So, My next phone will at best be a candy bar simple feature with full qwerty
> keyboard. Otherwise, a candy bar 12 pad. I refuse to do the slider or
> sideways keyboards. I'll be looking for the following features, moderate
> camera resolution, and SMS. I don't need GPS. I don't need to go places I
> don't already know or someone I'm with doesn't already know. You can find me
> with your fancy phone if your seeing me is that important to you. Or
> vacations, I can rent a GPS. Can't be rented? Okay, buy and return within 2
> weeks.
> 
> Samsung Note: (TouchWiz mess)
> A few years back, I bought the Samsung Note. Not the Note 2, 3, 4... ad
> nauseum.
> I promptly roo.... Nope, Can't do that without attaching to a computer. Okay,
> so I promptl... Nope. Trying to do it in Linux was a fight in futility. So,
> I handed my phone to another geek friend and he rooted the phone for me. He
> waited on Winders to install some drivers, installed a debugging thing.
> Downloaded and installed Android SDK stuff. Well, went through all kinds of
> crap and got it rooted. By in large, I liked the phone and features. I
> didn't like TouchWiz. So I tried a couple of different launchers and settled
> on Nova because of its stability and features. I feverishly played with and
> programmed that phone off and on for 6 months. Then I started hitting walls.
> Lots of walls. Had plenty of wiggle room to do lots more things I'd like and
> better round out many of the Tasks I'd created using Tasker. However, some
> things just didn't report properly. Some things just weren't accessible.
> Some where unreliable. I had out grown the phone in under 6 months. I
> stopped most all development with the phone because I had outgrown it. It
> could no longer keep up with my desires and demands. And I couldn't simply
> code my way out of it either. Sure, I did code my way around many things.
> Others simply weren't to be had. Other people were forging ahead with newer
> Android versions. I was held back by Samsung on an old KitKat. I made
> several attempts to download the update. In hindsight, I am very glad it
> failed. (Explained in Nexus 5) Phone eventually died and I went without a
> smartphone for a few months.
> 
> Nexus 5: (Not a utopia)
> I dreamed and imagined that getting closer to Google would release many of my
> Samsung struggles. I was wrong. I started up my phone and started getting
> this eerie tickling feeling I was being watched. For the first time, I was
> really starting to feel the phone wasn't mine. You MUST have a Google
> account to use this device. Yes, this was the case in the previous Android
> as well. Somehow, in my excitement I had overlooked it. That enthusiastic
> excitement was now gone. I was starting to get the feeling that "Anything
> you say can and will be used against you in a cour..". Sorry, I think you
> get the idea. If not. "I WAS FEELING STALKED!" So, I am signed in again.
> After all, I already have an account. Now I proceed to root my phone. Nope!
> Again, I must attach to a computer, install drivers, install debugger, (ADB
> - Android Debug Bridge), install 3rd party questionable rooting software
> specifically for your type of phone. And even at that, it really needs to be
> Mac or Windows. Easiest when you use windows. (grumble, grumble, windows,
> virus target, $$Mac$$, Closed off) I like Linux, I hate others! Hey, I
> respect the others in their own right. I do understand some of the struggles
> and efforts required in order to create and maintain a robust OS. Respecting
> the work doesn't mean I have to like the results of the labor. Back to the
> phone. I had the phone rooted for me. Now, for the first time I can compare
> phones. Note versus Nexus, I can do what I couldn't and can't do what I
> could. I won't bother going into a phone by phone comparison of features. I
> couldn't transfer most of my previous settings over, for several reasons.
> One was because I now had a different launcher, default Google Launcher. I
> was thinking, the Google Launcher and the Siri like feature was cool. Ok
> Google, Listen to everything just in case I might say "Ok Google". This left
> me with yet another big brother feeling. I enabled and played with it, then
> disabled within a few hours. Eventually Google provided the option to update
> to Lollipop. Yay!, I'll wait a few days to see what others say and I don't
> have time to fix anything that might break right now. Pop, Nag, update
> ready, "Yeah, I'll get to it. Leave me alone!" Pop, nag, update ready. Um
> wait, how often is this going to happen. Pop, nag. Google?!?
> Pop, nag. This is annoying and affecting my Data usage! Pop, nag. And I can't
> shut it off anywhere. Pop, nag. My battery is being drained heavily because
> the update is constantly running and routinely checking Google for the
> update, About half the life it use to be. Pop, nag. Okay, I'll update just
> to stop the battery drain. Besides, it is a weekend and I have time to deal
> with any problems. Arrgghhh!!! That white background! That is so freaking
> ugly? Crap, wait! What? Ugh, Just because Apple thinks White is the new
> black. Argh, it is so garishly ugly and default for everything. Well, here
> comes Nova Launcher to the rescue, partly. Freaking Settings menu and many
> default menus still have this horrible theme that I can't change. Oh well.
> So, wait! Uh, I'm not rooted anymore! What? Damn it, This is MY PHONE! I
> guess that is what I get for thinking. Uh, can you hear me now...!!! Phone
> dead. I have no cell service. Oh, there it is again. Okay. I programmed it
> to say, "Signal Lost" every time it went down and "Service Acquired" when it
> came up. That was happening a lot. Generally about twice an hour, sometimes
> more, sometimes less. In addition, it would do it after nearly every call
> ended. I changed the messages to "Lost", "Found". And setup logging of every
> incident and signal strength at the time to a file. I changed the messages
> again to a comical, "I once was lost", "But now I'm found" and "Of all the
> things I ever lost", "I missed my mind the most". I had it randomly pick
> between those message pairs. I never did root the phone again. I Went
> through another nag update cycle and still the cell service problem
> remained. I Reported the problem to Google and nothing has come of it. The
> nagging and effectively forced update proved to me that Google owned the
> phone, not me. I was simply allowed to pay them to hold and use it for their
> easy spying on me.
> 
> Nope, I won't have another smartphone until there is a Linux smartphone. And
> I don't foresee that happening anytime soon.
> 
> Lucius L. Hilley III - Unkmar
> 
> 

OT: Long Post: Smartphone rant (Take 2?)

From: Unkmar 
------------------------------------------------------
It's dead Jim:
Well, it happened.  My last smartphone has died.  Accidentally entered pool
with my phone in my pocket.

Linux or bust:
Last smartphone!  Multiple reasons, yet it all boils down to I want a Linux
smartphone or not at all.  I should own the phone if I bought it,
especially at $300.

Next Phone:
So, My next phone will at best be a candy bar simple feature with full
qwerty keyboard.  Otherwise, a candy bar 12 pad.  I refuse to do the slider
or sideways keyboards.  I'll be looking for the following features,
moderate camera resolution, and SMS.  I don't need GPS.  I don't need to go
places I don't already know or someone I'm with doesn't already know.  You
can find me with your fancy phone if your seeing me is that important to
you.  Or vacations, I can rent a GPS.  Can't be rented?  Okay, buy and
return within 2 weeks.

Samsung Note: (TouchWiz mess)
A few years back, I bought the Samsung Note.  Not the Note 2, 3, 4... ad
nauseum.
I promptly roo....  Nope, Can't do that without attaching to a computer.
Okay, so I promptl... Nope.  Trying to do it in Linux was a fight in
futility.  So, I handed my phone to another geek friend and he rooted the
phone for me.  He waited on Winders to install some drivers, installed a
debugging thing.  Downloaded and installed Android SDK stuff.  Well, went
through all kinds of crap and got it rooted.  By in large, I liked the
phone and features.  I didn't like TouchWiz. So I tried a couple of
different launchers and settled on Nova because of its stability and
features.  I feverishly played with and programmed that phone off and on
for 6 months.  Then I started hitting walls.  Lots of walls.  Had plenty of
wiggle room to do lots more things I'd like and better round out many of
the Tasks I'd created using Tasker.  However, some things just didn't
report properly.  Some things just weren't accessible.  Some where
unreliable.  I had out grown the phone in under 6 months.  I stopped most
all development with the phone because I had outgrown it.  It could no
longer keep up with my desires and demands.  And I couldn't simply code my
way out of it either.  Sure, I did code my way around many things.  Others
simply weren't to be had.  Other people were forging ahead with newer
Android versions.  I was held back by Samsung on an old KitKat.  I made
several attempts to download the update.  In hindsight, I am very glad it
failed. (Explained in Nexus 5)  Phone eventually died and I went without a
smartphone for a few months.

Nexus 5: (Not a utopia)
I dreamed and imagined that getting closer to Google would release many of
my Samsung struggles.  I was wrong.  I started up my phone and started
getting this eerie tickling feeling I was being watched.  For the first
time, I was really starting to feel the phone wasn't mine.  You MUST have a
Google account to use this device. Yes, this was the case in the previous
Android as well.  Somehow, in my excitement I had overlooked it.  That
enthusiastic excitement was now gone.  I was starting to get the feeling
that "Anything you say can and will be used against you in a cour..".
Sorry, I think you get the idea.  If not. "I WAS FEELING STALKED!"  So, I
am signed in again.  After all, I already have an account. Now I proceed to
root my phone.  Nope! Again, I must attach to a computer, install drivers,
install debugger, (ADB - Android Debug Bridge), install 3rd party
questionable rooting software specifically for your type of phone. And even
at that, it really needs to be Mac or Windows.  Easiest when you use
windows.  (grumble, grumble, windows, virus target, $$Mac$$, Closed off)  I
like Linux, I hate others!  Hey, I respect the others in their own right.
I do understand some of the struggles and efforts required in order to
create and maintain a robust OS.  Respecting the work doesn't mean I have
to like the results of the labor.  Back to the phone.  I had the phone
rooted for me.  Now, for the first time I can compare phones.  Note versus
Nexus, I can do what I couldn't and can't do what I could.  I won't bother
going into a phone by phone comparison of features.  I couldn't transfer
most of my previous settings over, for several reasons.  One was because I
now had a different launcher, default Google Launcher.  I was thinking, the
Google Launcher and the Siri like feature was cool.  Ok Google, Listen to
everything just in case I might say "Ok Google".  This left me with yet
another big brother feeling.  I enabled and played with it, then disabled
within a few hours.  Eventually Google provided the option to update to
Lollipop.  Yay!, I'll wait a few days to see what others say and I don't
have time to fix anything that might break right now.  Pop, Nag, update
ready, "Yeah, I'll get to it. Leave me alone!"  Pop, nag, update ready.  Um
wait, how often is this going to happen.  Pop, nag.  Google?!?
Pop, nag.  This is annoying and affecting my Data usage!  Pop, nag.  And I
can't shut it off anywhere.  Pop, nag.  My battery is being drained heavily
because the update is constantly running and routinely checking Google for
the update, About half the life it use to be.  Pop, nag.  Okay, I'll update
just to stop the battery drain. Besides, it is a weekend and I have time to
deal with any problems.  Arrgghhh!!!   That white background!  That is so
freaking ugly?  Crap, wait!  What?  Ugh, Just because Apple thinks White is
the new black.  Argh, it is so garishly ugly and default for everything.
Well, here comes Nova Launcher to the rescue, partly.  Freaking Settings
menu and many default menus still have this horrible theme that I can't
change.  Oh well.  So, wait!  Uh, I'm not rooted anymore!  What?  Damn it,
This is MY PHONE!  I guess that is what I get for thinking.  Uh, can you
hear me now...!!!  Phone dead.  I have no cell service.  Oh, there it is
again.  Okay. I programmed it to say, "Signal Lost"  every time it went
down and "Service Acquired" when it came up.  That was happening a lot.
Generally about twice an hour, sometimes more,  sometimes less.  In
addition, it would do it after nearly every call ended.  I changed the
messages to "Lost", "Found".  And setup logging of every incident and
signal strength at the time to a file.  I changed the messages again to a
comical, "I once was lost", "But now I'm found" and "Of all the things I
ever lost", "I missed my mind the most".  I had it randomly pick between
those message pairs. I never did root the phone again.  I Went through
another nag update cycle and still the cell service problem remained.  I
Reported the problem to Google and nothing has come of it.  The nagging and
effectively forced update proved to me that Google owned the phone, not
me.  I was simply allowed to pay them to hold and use it for their easy
spying on me.

Nope, I won't have another smartphone until there is a Linux smartphone.
And I don't foresee that happening anytime soon.

Lucius L. Hilley III - Unkmar

Soliciting Recommendations for home office router

From: Lisa Ridley 
------------------------------------------------------
It’s time to replace my router.

I’ve got an Apple Time Machine that I bought back in 2006 that has started dropping connections and, I fear, is finally giving up the ghost.  I’m looking for recommendations for a wireless router, and while I love the ease of use of my trusty ole Time Machine, there are a few features it doesn’t have that would be nice to have in a new one.

* Reliability is first and foremost.  I don’t want to spend an inordinate amount of time troubleshooting and sending the damn thing back to the store, and I don’t want to go through 5 or 6 different one trying to find a reliable one.
* I have EPB at the house, so something that will let me take full advantage of the speed would be awesome.  I have the 1G plan.
* Needs to have a configurable firewall on board.
* I would like to connect several devices to it, some wireless, some wired (more than 4 but less than 10), including my workstation, a CI server and two small footprint computers I use for testing builds during development.
* Would like to route web traffic to different physical devices based on URL (makes the automated builds triggered by Github commits easier).  This is the single biggest drawback to my Time Machine; traffic can be routed based on port, but not URL.
* I don’t mind paying extra for reliability and features but I would prefer to NOT break the bank.

Recommendations are most welcome.



slow network watching on a Mac

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
Got a cousin who has a Mac and a Apple router. ISP is comcast and he lives in an apartment.
He has been experiencing some network slow downs and has asked for help.
What some things he can use to trouble shoot. 
As far as I know iptraf isn't on Macs.

Got a call....

From: Mike Harrison 
------------------------------------------------------
Got a call from a friend in Dunlap TN and I’m far far away. 

From his phone call, it seems a neighbor is running a Wifi Pineapple or equivalent and snarfing traffic, playing havoc with their phones and computers. It may just be a really bad case of multiple systemic infections including his home router. 

Anyone want to help him out? He’s willing and able to pay a reasonable fee to solve this issue. 

email me directly if capable and interested: mike@geek…








Details on Hackintosh

From: Med Dement 
------------------------------------------------------
Ok=E2=80=A6. IM on 10.10.0   I do have iMessage and app store and Server =
2.2.2 running=E2=80=A6 FaceTime has no camera so not sure on that..  all =
the other apps are fine=E2=80=A6 I started  with 10.8.5  and Chameleon   =
and I upgraded to Maverick and all seemed well I had to swap and add on =
a NET card to get him happy=E2=80=A6.. from there I went to 10.10.0 and =
did the chameleon thing but had to change to later versions =E2=80=A6 =
and all is running based off of the latest  NVAM file that tonymac had =
on site=E2=80=A6 I have not done the upgrade as they and you all are =
having trouble with apple on that one=E2=80=A6. so to answer I will hang =
here=E2=80=A6 Hardware config is=20
GA-Z97X-UD7 TH LGA 1150 Z97

I have had no issues of hardware with this one=E2=80=A6.. the other two =
are on lower Gigabit boards=E2=80=A6.=20

HERE is the latest Chameleon  version .. and there is a log fix for =
iMessage=E2=80=A6 =
http://www.tonymacx86.com/announcements/90015-chimera-2-0-now-available-im=
essage-login-fix.html


Med Dement
med@hophoto.com



Apple and the Missing UTC Student

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
Well they found the missing Sudaneses UTC student's body.
Apparently Apple did show activity on his account 2 days after he went missing but would not help the cops.
I guess this will be a hotly debated online ethics issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFSUtW9aem0

Linux @ 23 of 85 top Disruptive Ideas since 1929

From: Dave Brockman 
------------------------------------------------------
On 12/4/2014 8:28 PM, Wil Wade wrote:
> "The 85 Most Disruptive Ideas in Our History" [Our being Business Week's
> 85 year history]
>
> Open Source/Linux (not GNU :( ) came in at 23.
>
> Interesting that Apple was at 10 and Microsoft was no where to be seen
> except that they bought a small company named Forethought at 53.
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/features/85ideas/

And Apple gets credit for the "smartphone" in 2007. Guess they only 
bothered to define a smartphone as an iphone, I know there were 
PDA+phone devices in the late/mid 90s, and I could browse on non-apple 
products waaaay before 2007. I guess Novell and MS actually replacing 
mainframes in the first place doesn't deserve a spot here, but < 15% 
desktop market share, < 1% server market share, and < 15% global mobile 
market share earns you lots of places in this silly list.  Writer/Editor 
is a FanBoi?

And it calls Linux an Operating System, so GNU is silently and 
implicitly included in that statement, because we all know that Linux is 
just a kernel, and without GNU, well, then you boot the Linux kernel and 
run BSD or Solaris or some other weird shit that just makes you feel 
unnatural...

Regards,

dtb


Linux @ 23 of 85 top Disruptive Ideas since 1929

From: Wil Wade 
------------------------------------------------------
"The 85 Most Disruptive Ideas in Our History" [Our being Business Week's 85
year history]

Open Source/Linux (not GNU :( ) came in at 23.

Interesting that Apple was at 10 and Microsoft was no where to be seen
except that they bought a small company named Forethought at 53.

http://www.businessweek.com/features/85ideas/

[OT] CurrentC

From: Stephen Kraus 
------------------------------------------------------
I know we were discussing CurrentC as the competitor to Google Wallet and
Apple Pay.

Ironically, they already got breached:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102132750?trknav=homestack:topnews:1

fwd: [nlug] PhreakNIC now has an android app

From: Jon Nyx 
------------------------------------------------------
FYI; next-to-last bit of PhreakNIC spam, then I'm done 'til we start
promoting the PN 2015 May-Day Mini-con.

~~jonnyX

-----Forwarded Message-----
> From: andrew mcelroy 
> Sent: Oct 28, 2014 12:11 PM
> To: "nlug-talk@googlegroups.com" 
> Subject: [nlug] PhreakNIC now has an android app
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> I wanted to get the word out that PhreakNIC now has an android mobile app.
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sophrinix.phreaknic&hl=en
>
> I have an iOS version of this app, but apple would take too long to
> approve it, so we will have to settle for deploying iOS next year.
>
> Respectfully,
> Andrew McElroy

Apple releases patch for OSX version of Bash to address ShellShock

From: Lynn Dixon 
------------------------------------------------------
Finally!
Apple released a patch for their version of Bash.  Its supposed to address
shell shock.  Its not in the App store, nor via Apple Updates as of yet.

But, you can get it from here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1769

I applied it at it has passed all the testing scripts I have tried.

Auto-backups on Mac based on Wireless connection

From: David White 
------------------------------------------------------
Hey folks,
I've got an odd question.

I've just finished setting up my local CentOS 7 box (embedded PC with a SSD
in it), and I'd now like to setup automatic backups on my wife's Mac.

Ideally, the process would go something like this:

   - Apple laptop turns on
   - Automatically detects that its currently connected to the home SSID
   - Automatically detects that the proper external hard drive is connected
      - All of the files she needs to backup remain on the external hard
      drive - they're not on the local disk
   - Based on knowing that its connected to this particular SSID, AND
   knowing that the external hard drive is connected, rsync (or something
   similar) launches
   - Files are copied over via rsync / SSH

Can this be done? If so, any suggestions on how I can do it?

I'm also setting up a VPN connection onto her laptop so that she can
*manually* back things up / recover items if she's not home (using pfSense
+ OpenVPN, which I already have working).

She's a teacher, and the public school system doesn't provide any
centralized repository for her lesson plans, etc..., nor do they provide
any backup system. The school-provided machine is so bad, anyway, that we
bought an external hard drive, and that's been her primary file storage.

So now, obviously I want to take backups off of that external drive in case
something happened to it.

Thanks,
David

-- 
David White
Founder & CEO

*Develop CENTS *
Computing, Equipping, Networking, Training & Supporting
Nonprofit Organizations Worldwide
http://developcents.com
423-693-4234

AFP vs SMB2, tech merits?

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
I know some who just hate Samba. And I recently been toying with AFP.
But now I here starting with Mavericks, Apple defaults to SMB2 for file sharing.
Wonder what y'all thought about that?


http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/06/new-os-x-uses-windows-file-sharing-by-default/

Rod 

ios remote support was lunch downtown today?

From: Sparky 
------------------------------------------------------
Apple has some config tools available. Maybe it has some kind of remote
config options for profiles or something?
http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/business/



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Ed King  wrote:

> Thanks, thats a good summary article.  I forwarded it to McTightwad but he
> is still asking me to find a way to remotely configure iphone email.  We
> installed an in-house iredmail server last week.  Our old hosted email was
> POP now we have IMAP.   *Before* we made the switchover, we posted
> instructions [with screenshots] on how to reconfigure iphones for the new
> system, but the boss says we are asking too much from our field workers and
> that we should remotely configure their iphones for them.
>
> Excerpt from field worker job description:
>
> "Moderate to excellent computer ability."
> "Proven proficiency of modern equipment including cell phones, fax
> machines, scanners, computers, palm or other hand held devices, GPS, and
> printers."
>
> So are we expecting too much?   The documentation is clear and concise.  I
> had one field worker (a new guy) say it was the most helpful documentation
> he's ever read and offered to buy my lunch when he's in town.   Its the
> upper level folks who are having trouble following the directions.  Go
> figure.
>
> oh, sorry,  am I being negative?    Ok, I'll go home and stick my tongue
> to the Mac Plus flyback and get some positive electrons in me.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 8/14/14, William Roush  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Chugalug] ios remote support  was Re:  lunch downtown today?
>  To: "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group"  chugalug@chugalug.org>
>  Date: Thursday, August 14, 2014, 3:35 PM
>
>  ScreenConnect wrote a
>  nice page about it:
>
>  http://www.screenconnect.com/Mobile-Device-Remote-Support
>
>  TL;DR: Apple is mean
>
>  William Roush
>  william.roush@roushtech.net
>  423-463-0592
>
>  http://www.roushtech.net/blog/
>
>
>  On 8/14/2014
>  1:54 PM, Ed King wrote:
>  > Walked down to
>  Doctor Bldg.     Sorry you didn't get to see
>  me!
>  >
>  >
>  > So...   whats the
>  "best" remote support solution for iphone? (eg: to
>  tap INTO the iphone)
>  >
>  > I can't find one that offers full
>  remote control w/o jailbreaking, so whats the next best
>  thing?   Looked at Logmein, Teamviewer, Bomgar so
>  far
>  >
>  > as this is for
>  Mr McTightwad, I'm looking for the most expensive
>  product available
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  --------------------------------------------
>  > On Thu, 8/14/14, Ed King 
>  wrote:
>  >
>  >   Subject: Re: [Chugalug] lunch
>  downtown today?
>  >   To:
>  "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group"
>  
>  >   Date: Thursday, August 14,
>  2014, 11:30 AM
>  >
>  >   maybe.   depends
>  on
>  >   where and when
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >   --------------------------------------------
>  >   On Thu, 8/14/14, Rod-Lists
>  
>  >   wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  Subject: [Chugalug]
>  >   lunch
>  downtown today?
>  >    To:
>  "Chattanooga
>  >   Unix Gnu
>  Android Linux Users Group" 
>  >    Date: Thursday, August 14, 2014,
>  10:01 AM
>  >
>  >
>    Whole office is on the
>  >   road.
>  >
>    Anyone up for lunch downtown?
>  >
>
>  >
>  >    Rod
>  >
>  >   

Anyone ever use Netatalk?

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allows a linux or bsd machine function as as a AFP server.
Supposedly it even supports time machine.

Also has any tried using afps-ng-utils to access an apple file server?


Rod

Is apple walking away from High End Video editing?

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Was watching TWiT and Leo LaPorte, with much lamentations, let slip that the next upgrade his company does will be to PC for their editing platform. He feels Apple just isn't catering to the High end video editing scene anymore.

What do y'all think?