Thursday

From: John Aldrich 
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Ok, so I'm going to be in Chattanooga Thursday for a Lunch & Learn downtown 
at the BlueWater Grill (I think that's the name of the place.. right there 
on Broad.) Anyone got any plans to be there? What about Thursday 
afternoon/evening?

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ Blue Water is good. Lovely resturant. But that is just before payday. i'kll have to wait and see. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Aldrich" To: "CHUGALUG" Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 6:43:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Chugalug] Thursday Ok, so I'm going to be in Chattanooga Thursday for a Lunch & Learn downtown at the BlueWater Grill (I think that's the name of the place.. right there on Broad.) Anyone got any plans to be there? What about Thursday afternoon/evening?

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Well, I got an invite from Syscom Technologies, the folks running the "lunch and learn" so I don't think I'm expected to pay. ;-) That being said, since I have the day off, I think I'll run a couple other errands that afternoon, but thought maybe it might be nice to have a Chugalug meeting somewhere Thursday evening. :-) If not, oh, well... that's OK too. I'm sure there'll be something good on TV Thursday night, if not live, then off the DVR. ;-)

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ Bluewater is always good. What is the "Lunch and Learn" topic? Got a URL? I found all kinds of "Lunch and Learn" things via Google.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ It's on Disaster Recovery. Sponsored by Syscom Technologies. Anyone know anything about them? It appears that they are a Chattanooga company, but other than that, I don't know anything else much other than what's on their website (D/R specialists.)

=============================================================== From: Stephen Rees ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.syscomtechnologies.com/events.cfm?indexcode=11MAR31

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ No URL, but I do have the contact info for the lady who contacted me and invited me... If anyone is interested, shoot me an email to my work address: jaldrich@blueridgecarpet.com and I'll get you in touch with SysCom. Just got off the phone with Mike H. and he's not interested as it's probably a Microsoft-centric solution, but on the good side he's never heard of SysCom. Why is that a good thing? Because as he put it, he's only heard of the *bad* folks. ;-)

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=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 They aren't based in Chatt, they are based in Atlanta. They have some good products and services, and at least one talented Engineer. If, however, they mention Mimosa for Exchange, I suggest you cover your ears and run from the room screaming at the top of your lungs. Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2SKhMACgkQABP1RO+tr2TNYgCgp1sHeiQ1qCKeQfPJjHQRcDsY aF0AoKyc3x4P0IoSwWQi6qjsF89FOeTr =P8aG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Ah... Interesting. From what I saw on their website it *looked* like they were Chattanooga based. Anyway, since we don't have (and don't plan to get) Exchange, I won't worry about Mimosa. :-)

=============================================================== From: Chris Mowery ------------------------------------------------------ Looks like I'll be at the Lunch and Learn, too. Hopefully the food alone will be worth the time. Chris t)

=============================================================== From: Aaron Welch ------------------------------------------------------ Same here. -AW ey t)

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Cool. I guess I can talk to you guys afterwards to get your take on whether what they're pushing is good or BS. :-)

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ Possible translation: John is buying dessert/drinks at the bar afterwards?

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ He still owes me for a lunch... -AW

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Hah! I'm freshly divorced with a house payment, electric bill, internet, etc all on my own, when I have been barely paying all the bills when it was a 2-paycheck household. So, no. I'm not buying dessert/drinks. I might join you for a cold one afterwards, but it's strictly every man for himself. ;-)

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ I thought your former employer picked up the tab for that one. :-)

=============================================================== From: Aaron Welch ------------------------------------------------------ Nope. I had to on my dime. -AW

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Oh, then I do owe you lunch. My bad.

=============================================================== From: cynicalgeek@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------------ It blows my mind that u guys even discuss this on list. Seriously. Sent from my iPhone

=============================================================== From: Aaron Welch ------------------------------------------------------ Two things then I will drop it... 1. This was meant in jest and I guess that got lost in the email. 2. It was a Chugalunch that I paid for so it is almost list appropriate :+p= It is also poking fun of one of my old employers since they viewed taking cu= stomers out to lunch as a bad thing and not a sales tool. The whole thing w= as a misunderstanding with John (and his coworker), I just felt the need to p= oke at him about it all in good fun. -AW

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ People forget some of these guys have known each other for awhile and have = their own short hand.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Aaron Welch" =20 To: "CHUGALUG" =20 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:04:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern=20 Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Thursday=20 Two things then I will drop it...=20 1. =C2=A0This was meant in jest and I guess that got lost in the email.=20 2. =C2=A0It was a Chugalunch that I paid for so it is almost list appropria= te :+p=20 It is also poking fun of one of my old employers since they viewed taking c= ustomers out to lunch as a bad thing and not a sales tool. =C2=A0The whole = thing was a misunderstanding with John (and his coworker), I just felt the = need to poke at him about it all in good fun.=20 -AW=20 =C2=A0=20

=============================================================== From: Chris Mowery ------------------------------------------------------ Dave, After the presentation we stayed and talked to them about Exchange migration and archiving came up. What is the problem with Mimosa? They were definitely pushing it hard. Chris eir

=============================================================== From: Aaron Welch ------------------------------------------------------ So you were the ones hogging Don! That presentation was too rushed and felt= for like infospew. I wish they would have just focused on using SRM for DR= . -AW eir

=============================================================== From: Chris Mowery ------------------------------------------------------ Yup! It was interesting stuff, but I was expecting a different type of presentation, more technical. Chris felt for like infospew. =A0I wish they would have just focused on using SR= M for DR. e: ow ut their e s

=============================================================== From: Stephen Rees ------------------------------------------------------ So did you get a free lunch? - Stephen Sent from my iPhone : elt for like infospew. I wish they would have just focused on using SRM for= DR. e: ow ut heir s

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Let me preface this by saying 1) This was ~4 years ago 2) I had a rather complicated Exchange Org (18+ servers, 16+ sites) The problems with Mimosa were: They came in, spent the majority of a day and a half, declared it was working, and it did -- for one particular small sub-set of users. They spent the rest of the week working on it, finally about 3PM Friday they declared it good. And it was working. Until Monday morning. Then it didn't work for anyone again. That's when I went down the uninstall road. You will never, ever get all of Mimosa out of your Exchange Org, it buries itself way down deep into the PF structure and I have no idea how it does it's redirections. I don't like black magic either. If you'd like to discuss Exchange migration, feel free to drop me a line off-list. That's kinda been one of my areas of expertise for the past 12+ years. If you're interested in archiving, I would highly suggest you look at products that use the native journaling features of Exchange. Barracuda and Enkive play in this space. Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2U9RkACgkQABP1RO+tr2RV4ACfQiCdRDX7NDtnX2Ad7n7uLHt8 xA4AoKxR16tM01KWbgYBJip1r5cqtXi0 =U/Po -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Kenneth Ratliff ------------------------------------------------------ This sounds remarkably like how our NeverFail install went, and how our LanDesk install is presently going!

=============================================================== From: Chris Mowery ------------------------------------------------------ Wow that is crazy. Yeah I would like a journal-based archive solution. We currently have Barracuda email filters so that might be a push for them. Thanks for the offer, I might take you up on it after we have our big "email direction" meeting. I'm kinda pushing toward a hosted solution. Chris it

=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ I have a Barracuda Message Archiver and it works wonderfully for the limited user base I've implemented it... I'm looking forward to when I can fully implement it across the enterprise because I @#$%ing hate PST files... with a passion. -B