noSQL was GeekSwap

From: Rod-Lists 
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Lisa would noSQL be enough for a drupal site running the book module? 
I might have a project. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lisa Ridley"  
To: "CHUGALUG"  
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:45:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] GeekSwap 


I was secretly hoping you were harboring this desire to go with a NoSQL option...I'm looking for an excuse to use MongoDB in a real project 

Sent from my iPad 

On Mar 23, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Ed King < chevyiinova@bellsouth.net > wrote: 







I really, really wanted to use VSAM files but 1and1 doesn't offer that so I had to go with MySQL :) 





From: Lisa Ridley < lhridley@gmail.com > 
To: CHUGALUG < chugalug@chugalug.org > 
Cc: CHUGALUG < chugalug@chugalug.org > 
Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 9:19:07 AM 
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] GeekSwap 


Hey Ed... Quick question regarding future "integration"....what are you using as a database backend...MySQL? 

Sent from my iPad 

On Mar 23, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Ed King < chevyiinova@bellsouth.net > wrote: 






alrighty then, if the swapboard is a "standalone" project then I will proceed with a stupid-simple swapboard and not worry about how or if it will ever be integrated into Drupal... or skinned with Elise's graphics and css... or integrated with Lisa's inventory tracking... or... or... or ;) 

I don't have anything worth showing yet... damn this nice weather! 





From: Aaron welch < n2nightfall@gmail.com > 
To: CHUGALUG < chugalug@chugalug.org > 
Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 2:31:46 AM 
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] GeekSwap 

I will take the hit on this one. I was having several different efforts going on at the same time. All of which are mutually exclusive of each other. Here is a breakdown of projects as they relate to the Geek Swap Meet: 


Basic informational website and logos - Elise 
Craiglist style want to buy/want to sell site - Ed 
Inventory tracking system for consignment sales - Lisa (did not know you were doing this, but that is totally cool!) 


All of these projects stand on their own, that way if someone gets busy and something does not get done it is no big deal. What I would like to see now is the logos Elise has designed, the posting system that Ed has created, and the tracking system Lisa is working on. I have to get all of the documents turned in this week, so I would love to see where we stand on all of these. 


How does this benefit the Hackerspace? We are donating 10% of the profits for the event to the Hackerspace plus providing space at the show for gathering momentum and collecting dues (will talk about this at the next HS meeting). 


I am really hoping that we can get some good participation from the surrounding community (within 2hrs) to support having these types of events on a regular basis. I really appreciate everything you all have done thus far and look forward to seeing some of these projects come into the light here soon. 


Here is the link to the new mailing list: 
http://geekswapmeet.org/list/?p=subscribe&id=1 


The Drupal instance is up and running at: 
http://www.geekswapmeet.org/ 


-AW 




On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Lisa Ridley < lhridley@gmail.com > wrote: 




I second the duplication of effort sentiment. This project is beginning to spin out of control. At this point I'm going to cease and desist anything beyond getting the consignment tracking done, complete with QrCode generator. 


IMHO, we need a project manager on this. 

Sent from my iPad 




On Mar 22, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Ed King < chevyiinova@bellsouth.net > wrote: 







>Ed, I'm not entirely sure what it is that you've been working on. 

me either ;-) 

My involvement in this project started with a quick conversation with Aaron at a Chugalunch 2 or 3 weeks ago. We talked about making a very simple swap board with user-logins and categories. I wasn't aware until recently that Lisa was working on "database stuff" (duplication of effort?) or that we were going to use Drupal. 

So now I'm like, totally confused as to who-is-doing-what and do we have to integrate with Drupal, which I know nothing about. If we are going to use Drupal then lets get a shared Drupal dev site up asap, and divy up the tasks 

Also, a reminder of how this project benefits Hackspace would be a good read... 





From: K. Elise Walker < werkewdesign@gmail.com > 
To: Mike Harrison < cluon@geeklabs.com >; CHUGALUG < chugalug@chugalug.org > 
Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 1:28:52 AM 
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] GeekSwap 

Okay. So, let's decide... do you want me to take the time to redo what I have in something that isn't Drupal. Ed, I'm not entirely sure what it is that you've been working on. Can you explain the portion you're working on to me. I'm starting to question my placement in this whole scenario. As far as I know Aaron liked the logo I came up with... if he is having someone else write the code for the general public friendly website that is cool. If anymore graphics are needed let me know, if that is the case and I can help, then I will be more than happy to. 







=============================================================== From: wes ------------------------------------------------------ you don't want noSQL. use at least SQLite, it's easy and light enough for whatever you're trying to do. -wes

=============================================================== From: Lisa Ridley ------------------------------------------------------ I don't think Drupal support for MongoDB is ready yet. for whatever you're trying to do. wrote: Eastern NoSQL option...I'm looking for an excuse to use MongoDB in a real = project wrote: so I had to go with MySQL :) you using as a database backend...MySQL? wrote: proceed with a stupid-simple swapboard and not worry about how or if it = will ever be integrated into Drupal... or skinned with Elise's graphics = and css... or integrated with Lisa's inventory tracking... or... or... = or ;) efforts going on at the same time. All of which are mutually exclusive = of each other. Here is a breakdown of projects as they relate to the = Geek Swap Meet: you were doing this, but that is totally cool!) busy and something does not get done it is no big deal. What I would = like to see now is the logos Elise has designed, the posting system that = Ed has created, and the tracking system Lisa is working on. I have to = get all of the documents turned in this week, so I would love to see = where we stand on all of these. profits for the event to the Hackerspace plus providing space at the = show for gathering momentum and collecting dues (will talk about this at = the next HS meeting). surrounding community (within 2hrs) to support having these types of = events on a regular basis. I really appreciate everything you all have = done thus far and look forward to seeing some of these projects come = into the light here soon. wrote: beginning to spin out of control. At this point I'm going to cease and = desist anything beyond getting the consignment tracking done, complete = with QrCode generator. wrote: Aaron at a Chugalunch 2 or 3 weeks ago. We talked about making a very = simple swap board with user-logins and categories. I wasn't aware until = recently that Lisa was working on "database stuff" (duplication of = effort?) or that we were going to use Drupal. =20 have to integrate with Drupal, which I know nothing about. If we are = going to use Drupal then lets get a shared Drupal dev site up asap, and = divy up the tasks good read... I have in something that isn't Drupal. Ed, I'm not entirely sure what it = is that you've been working on. Can you explain the portion you're = working on to me. I'm starting to question my placement in this whole = scenario. As far as I know Aaron liked the logo I came up with... if he = is having someone else write the code for the general public friendly = website that is cool. If anymore graphics are needed let me know, if = that is the case and I can help, then I will be more than happy to.

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ what about couchDB?=20 The project I had in mind would be a collaborative book project using the b= ook module.=20 not sure if that would require "transactional" function or not.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Lisa Ridley" =20 To: "CHUGALUG" =20 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:52:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern=20 Subject: Re: noSQL was Re: [Chugalug] GeekSwap=20 I don't think Drupal support for MongoDB is ready yet.=20 you don't want noSQL. use at least SQLite, it's easy and light enough for w= hatever you're trying to do.=20 -wes=20 =20 Lisa would noSQL be enough for a drupal site running the book module?=20 I might have a project.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Lisa Ridley" < lhridley@gmail.com >=20 To: "CHUGALUG" < chugalug@chugalug.org >=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:45:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern=20 Subject: Re: [Chugalug] GeekSwap=20 I was secretly hoping you were harboring this desire to go with a NoSQL opt= ion...I'm looking for an excuse to use MongoDB in a real project=20 Sent from my iPad=20 =20 I really, really wanted to use VSAM files but 1and1 doesn't offer that so I= had to go with MySQL :)=20 From: Lisa Ridley < lhridley@gmail.com >=20 To: CHUGALUG < chugalug@chugalug.org >=20 Cc: CHUGALUG < chugalug@chugalug.org >=20 Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 9:19:07 AM=20 Subject: Re: [Chugalug] GeekSwap=20 Hey Ed... Quick question regarding future "integration"....what are you usi= ng as a database backend...MySQL?=20 Sent from my iPad=20 =20 alrighty then, if the swapboard is a "standalone" project then I will proce= ed with a stupid-simple swapboard and not worry about how or if it will eve= r be integrated into Drupal...=C2=A0 or skinned with Elise's graphics and c= ss...=C2=A0 or integrated with Lisa's inventory tracking...=C2=A0 or... or.= .. or ;)=20 I don't have anything worth showing yet...=C2=A0=C2=A0 damn this nice weath= er!=C2=A0=20 From: Aaron welch < n2nightfall@gmail.com >=20 To: CHUGALUG < chugalug@chugalug.org >=20 Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 2:31:46 AM=20 Subject: Re: [Chugalug] GeekSwap=20 I will take the hit on this one. =C2=A0I was having several different effor= ts going on at the same time. =C2=A0All of which are mutually exclusive of = each other. =C2=A0Here is a breakdown of projects as they relate to the Gee= k Swap Meet:=20 Basic informational website and logos - Elise=20 Craiglist style want to buy/want to sell site - Ed=20 Inventory tracking system for consignment sales - Lisa (did not know you we= re doing this, but that is totally cool!)=20 All of these projects stand on their own, that way if someone gets busy and= something does not get done it is no big deal. =C2=A0What I would like to = see now is the logos Elise has designed, the posting system that Ed has cre= ated, and the =C2=A0tracking system Lisa is working on. =C2=A0I have to get= all of the documents turned in this week, so I would love to see where =C2= =A0we stand on all of these.=20 How does this benefit the Hackerspace? =C2=A0We are donating 10% of the pro= fits for the event to the Hackerspace plus providing space at the show for = gathering momentum and collecting dues (will talk about this at the next HS= meeting).=20 I am really hoping that we can get some good participation from the surroun= ding community (within 2hrs) to support having these types of events on a r= egular basis. =C2=A0I really appreciate everything you all have done thus f= ar and look forward to seeing some of these projects come into the light he= re soon.=20 Here is the link to the new mailing list:=20 http://geekswapmeet.org/list/?p=3Dsubscribe&id=3D1=20 The Drupal instance is up and running at:=20 http://www.geekswapmeet.org/=20 -AW=20 =20 I second the duplication of effort sentiment. =C2=A0This project is beginni= ng to spin out of control. =C2=A0At this point I'm going to cease and desis= t anything beyond getting the consignment tracking done, complete with QrCo= de generator.=20 IMHO, we need a project manager on this. =C2=A0=20 Sent from my iPad=20 =20 me either ;-)=C2=A0=20 My involvement in this project started with a quick conversation with Aaron= at a Chugalunch 2 or 3 weeks ago.=C2=A0 We talked about making a very simp= le swap board with user-logins and categories.=C2=A0 I wasn't aware until r= ecently that Lisa was working on "database stuff" (duplication of effort?) = or that we were going to use Drupal.=C2=A0=20 So now I'm like, totally confused as to who-is-doing-what and do we have to= integrate with Drupal, which I know nothing about.=C2=A0 If we are going t= o use Drupal then lets get a shared Drupal dev site up asap, and divy up th= e tasks=20 Also, a reminder of how this project benefits Hackspace would be a good rea= d...=20 =C2=A0=20 From: K. Elise Walker < werkewdesign@gmail.com >=20 To: Mike Harrison < cluon@geeklabs.com >; CHUGALUG < chugalug@chugalug.org = Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 1:28:52 AM=20 Subject: Re: [Chugalug] GeekSwap=20 Okay. So, let's decide... do you want me to take the time to redo what I ha= ve in something that isn't Drupal. Ed, I'm not entirely sure what it is tha= t you've been working on. Can you explain the portion you're working on to = me. I'm starting to question my placement in this whole scenario. As far as= I know Aaron liked the logo I came up with... if he is having someone else= write the code for the general public friendly website that is cool. If an= ymore graphics are needed let me know, if that is the case and I can help, = then I will be more than happy to.=20

=============================================================== From: Sean Brewer ------------------------------------------------------ CouchDB rocks. The API is completely REST based, so you really have to worry about a client library existing for whatever you're using, even though libraries exist for several different languages. Also, SQLite probably isn't a great idea. Multiple processes can access it at the same time, but only one can have write access to it at a time. I'm guessing that's probably not going to work for what you're doing.

=============================================================== From: Sean Brewer ------------------------------------------------------ Oops, I meant, "so you don't really have to worry about a client library existing" Haha, sorry. I got too excited about CouchDB.

=============================================================== From: Lisa Ridley ------------------------------------------------------ Rod, I haven't heard of any initiatives within the Drupal community to incorporat= e CouchDB as a db backend. I know that there is some work in progress for M= ongoDB; it's just jot ready for general consumption as a viable backend alte= rnative for Drupal yet. Sent from my iPad ry about a client library existing for whatever you're using, even though li= braries exist for several different languages. at the same time, but only one can have write access to it at a time. I'm g= uessing that's probably not going to work for what you're doing. ook module. hatever you're trying to do. tion...I'm looking for an excuse to use MongoDB in a real project had to go with MySQL :) ing as a database backend...MySQL? eed with a stupid-simple swapboard and not worry about how or if it will eve= r be integrated into Drupal... or skinned with Elise's graphics and css... = or integrated with Lisa's inventory tracking... or... or... or ;) oing on at the same time. All of which are mutually exclusive of each other= . Here is a breakdown of projects as they relate to the Geek Swap Meet: ere doing this, but that is totally cool!) d something does not get done it is no big deal. What I would like to see n= ow is the logos Elise has designed, the posting system that Ed has created, a= nd the tracking system Lisa is working on. I have to get all of the docume= nts turned in this week, so I would love to see where we stand on all of th= ese. for the event to the Hackerspace plus providing space at the show for gathe= ring momentum and collecting dues (will talk about this at the next HS meeti= ng). nding community (within 2hrs) to support having these types of events on a r= egular basis. I really appreciate everything you all have done thus far and= look forward to seeing some of these projects come into the light here soon= . o spin out of control. At this point I'm going to cease and desist anything= beyond getting the consignment tracking done, complete with QrCode generato= r. n at a Chugalunch 2 or 3 weeks ago. We talked about making a very simple sw= ap board with user-logins and categories. I wasn't aware until recently tha= t Lisa was working on "database stuff" (duplication of effort?) or that we w= ere going to use Drupal. =20 o integrate with Drupal, which I know nothing about. If we are going to use= Drupal then lets get a shared Drupal dev site up asap, and divy up the task= s ad... ave in something that isn't Drupal. Ed, I'm not entirely sure what it is tha= t you've been working on. Can you explain the portion you're working on to m= e. I'm starting to question my placement in this whole scenario. As far as I= know Aaron liked the logo I came up with... if he is having someone else wr= ite the code for the general public friendly website that is cool. If anymor= e graphics are needed let me know, if that is the case and I can help, then I= will be more than happy to.

=============================================================== From: "K. Elise Walker" ------------------------------------------------------ Okay.... going to stay up tonight and throw some content on the drupal page I have up then... Aaron.. not sure how familiar you are with drupal or not... when I shoot you the template files, will you know where to upload them and how to turn on the themeing within admin area..

=============================================================== From: "K. Elise Walker" ------------------------------------------------------ OH, and forgot to ask... which drupal core do you have up.. I'm formatted for 6 right now, but it will be super simple to redo for 7.

=============================================================== From: Lisa Ridley ------------------------------------------------------ My 2cents...stick w drupal 6....there are still alot of issues w some of the= drupal 7 plugins Lisa Ridley RoveWarrior RoveWorks Fostering the Evolution of the Mobile Revolution On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:18 AM, "K. Elise Walker" wrot= e: or 6 right now, but it will be super simple to redo for 7.=20 rote: e I have up then... Aaron.. not sure how familiar you are with drupal or not= ... when I shoot you the template files, will you know where to upload them a= nd how to turn on the themeing within admin area.. ate CouchDB as a db backend. I know that there is some work in progress for= MongoDB; it's just jot ready for general consumption as a viable backend al= ternative for Drupal yet. rry about a client library existing for whatever you're using, even though l= ibraries exist for several different languages. t at the same time, but only one can have write access to it at a time. I'm g= uessing that's probably not going to work for what you're doing. book module. whatever you're trying to do. ption...I'm looking for an excuse to use MongoDB in a real project I had to go with MySQL :) sing as a database backend...MySQL? ceed with a stupid-simple swapboard and not worry about how or if it will ev= er be integrated into Drupal... or skinned with Elise's graphics and css...= or integrated with Lisa's inventory tracking... or... or... or ;) oing on at the same time. All of which are mutually exclusive of each other= . Here is a breakdown of projects as they relate to the Geek Swap Meet: ere doing this, but that is totally cool!) nd something does not get done it is no big deal. What I would like to see n= ow is the logos Elise has designed, the posting system that Ed has created, a= nd the tracking system Lisa is working on. I have to get all of the docume= nts turned in this week, so I would love to see where we stand on all of th= ese. s for the event to the Hackerspace plus providing space at the show for gath= ering momentum and collecting dues (will talk about this at the next HS meet= ing). unding community (within 2hrs) to support having these types of events on a r= egular basis. I really appreciate everything you all have done thus far and= look forward to seeing some of these projects come into the light here soon= . o spin out of control. At this point I'm going to cease and desist anything= beyond getting the consignment tracking done, complete with QrCode generato= r. on at a Chugalunch 2 or 3 weeks ago. We talked about making a very simple s= wap board with user-logins and categories. I wasn't aware until recently th= at Lisa was working on "database stuff" (duplication of effort?) or that we w= ere going to use Drupal. =20 o integrate with Drupal, which I know nothing about. If we are going to use= Drupal then lets get a shared Drupal dev site up asap, and divy up the task= s ead... ave in something that isn't Drupal. Ed, I'm not entirely sure what it is tha= t you've been working on. Can you explain the portion you're working on to m= e. I'm starting to question my placement in this whole scenario. As far as I= know Aaron liked the logo I came up with... if he is having someone else wr= ite the code for the general public friendly website that is cool. If anymor= e graphics are needed let me know, if that is the case and I can help, then I= will be more than happy to.