mesh networking on the ham bands

From: Rod 
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=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ Unsecured wifi = bad idea. There are some special use cases for it, but I think it is way over-hyped. -B

=============================================================== From: Rod ------------------------------------------------------ They mentioned there are ways of securing it. Also I noted that apparently normal wifi cannot connect to it. Why I'm not sure.

=============================================================== From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" ------------------------------------------------------ Just making sure you know, encryption *of any type*, or any other way of obfuscating the meaning of a transmission, is illegal under amateur radio rules. " ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we=E2=80=99re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead" - Alex Smith - Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia USA d.

=============================================================== From: Rod ------------------------------------------------------ true. However I believe there was a waver for control codes. I'm still trying read thru on this. Personally I would not connect to = normal internet. Found this recording of a middle tn net discussing setting one up. http://likespecies.com/MeshProp/MidsouthMesh-20131204030001.mp3 On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 21:08:58 -0400, Alex Smith (K4RNT) = wrote: of = d, = = =99re all = G = = =

=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ Jefferson County ARES is looking at using it to quickly build a comm net for disasters. They already use a pair with high gain antennas to provide internet access for a DSTAR repeater over a span of about 10 miles. It's cool stuff, but very situational. All they are doing essentially is setting up ad-hoc networking with dynamic routing. -B

=============================================================== From: Rod ------------------------------------------------------ This recording is from the memphis area. They were talking about hamwan = on = 5ghz as well. D-star being proprietary bugs me. But it is the rage in certain circles.= On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 22:04:52 -0400, Bret McHone wro= te: et = = is = = y = ur = on = Judge = A = is =

=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ agreed. I would like to try DSTAR but I'll be scraping up cash for my first rig for a month or two and the extra money for a feature I may not use isn't on my priority list. Maybe if the local clubs started using it more then I'ld look at it, but the closest one down here is in Seymour and I'm not sure I'ld even be able to hit it from my house. -B

=============================================================== From: Rod ------------------------------------------------------ On your open wifi comment, If I understand this right the nodes are = controlled via a wired connection. The recording mentions using ubiquity as well as the old linksys routers= . They mention using channel 1, 0, and -1. The last 2 are in the ham band = = but not in 802 band. channel 1 overlaps. Found this video using a rasberry pi and asterisk for this. Paul KF5JIM provides instructions on setting up Asterisk on a Raspberry = = Pi, and then setting that up to work across a Broadband-Hamnet(TM) = (hsmm-mesh(TM)) mesh network. http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/documentation/170-asterisk-rpi-bbhn Seems like this or hamwan is a better idea than the old ax25. But I thin= k = we need some gateways for the old digi nets On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 22:34:08 -0400, Bret McHone wro= te: = ot = ut = = an = es. = = to = = y = to = = = = Picard, = USA ng = =

=============================================================== From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" ------------------------------------------------------ D-STAR actually isn't proprietary, it's a standard from the Japan Amateur Radio League. However, it does use a proprietary voice audio codec, and Icom is the only radio manufacturer to offer D-STAR compliant hardware. " ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we=E2=80=99re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead" - Alex Smith - Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia USA e de f io , nd all world.

=============================================================== From: Rod ------------------------------------------------------ which makes difficult to homebrew , does it not? We do have a local d star repeater in the area. So where do we finfd 15 dbi 2.4ghz antennae? Anyone local got ubiquity = equipment? On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 23:02:50 -0400, Alex Smith (K4RNT) = wrote: d, = = =99re all = G = nd = ry = = y = = = en = mm = s = f = t = . r = er = = Jean-Luc = a = =

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ Isn't DSTAR limited to only ICOM radios?

=============================================================== From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" ------------------------------------------------------ Get an Icom base station and homebrew away. :) " ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we=E2=80=99re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead" - Alex Smith - Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia USA ll . k le . t ide s s us dom =99re all world.

=============================================================== From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" ------------------------------------------------------ Right now, they're the only manufacturer who has produced any D-STAR rigs. Other manufacturers have the option, but haven't yet. " ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we=E2=80=99re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead" - Alex Smith - Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia USA le . t ide s s us dom =99re all world.

=============================================================== From: Rod ------------------------------------------------------ it has been almost 10 years and still haven't seen the other brands make= = one. I think hopes that that will open up aren't based on reality. Howev= er = the public service units we interact with don't care about. Sometimes I wonder if d-star isn't a trojan to prevent us developing oth= er = technology. Example Hamwan is running into a potential rule change that could hinder= = it. The existence of d-star could used as example us not neededing hamwan. https://www.hamwan.org/t/tiki-index.php?page=3DHamWAN+Response+to+FCC+NP= RM+13-49 On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 23:59:17 -0400, Alex Smith (K4RNT) = wrote: d, = = =99re all = G = : te: y = = = en = mm = s = f = t = . r = er = = Jean-Luc = a = =