From: David White 
I had a (new) client contact me over Facebook last night, and was at their
place for close to 3 hours this morning.

They've got a firewall running Untangle, which I'm not familiar with.
Here's the odd thing - Whoever set it up for them set it up on a
motherboard that doesn't have VGA, DVI, or Console out - it only has HDMI
and Display Port, and even with a HDMI -> DVI adapter, the IT guy (who
admits he's not a network / hardware guy) over there wasn't able to get
display into the box.

It's running on a system board inside an M360 enclosure (same exact
enclosures I use for my own devices and devices I recommend to people).

Their entire network was down, and after troubleshooting some things (and
talking with their own IT guy), we narrowed the issue down to the Untangle
device. Put in one of my own pfSense devices temporarily (and they're back
up and running now).

I'm back at my desk now, and swapped hard drives with one of my own
devices, so I could plug in a VGA monitor and take a look at it.

I've already gotten permission from the guy to wipe this and put pfSense on

But I was wondering if anyone use Untangle? Do you like it? I'm going to
put pfSense on this baby and then test it on the original hardware, and
hopefully be able to get them back up and running on their own hardware,
but this is intriguing.

Anyway... back to wiping untangle and getting this thing back up and
David White
Founder & CEO

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=============================================================== From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" ------------------------------------------------------ I've heard good things about it, but never put it to use or seen it in a business environment. I prefer to use either pfSense or m0n0wall. " ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we=E2=80=99re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead" - Alex Smith - Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia USA r e k

=============================================================== From: Nick Smith ------------------------------------------------------ Its more like IPCop, where it does content filtering, spam/virus protection etc. Its alot more bloated than pfsense, but pfsense does have packages you can install to get a similar setup. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:

=============================================================== From: Ashley Wilson ------------------------------------------------------ Or you can try Mandrake MNF. If you want something that may fail closed forever as a result of a hard fart or bad syntax. :-)

=============================================================== From: James Nylen ------------------------------------------------------ Cool! I think this is exactly what I need for my clown computing[1] setup at home. [1]: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clown+computing

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ Any chance it's setup for serial ? Almost Worst case, document what they think it should be doing and load pfSense of something else. Worst case: firewalls are commodity items. Replace it.

=============================================================== From: David White ------------------------------------------------------ No serial output either. The hardware literally only has HDMI out, and Display Port out. I loaded pfSense onto it, but was having trouble getting it configured, as I still couldn't get a display. I was working in the dark (and switching out the hard drive onto a different box - but the box I was using to load the software only had 1 NIC, which further complicated matters). In the end, we decided to replace it. The box they had wouldn't have been able to handle the load / volume of traffic / amount of clients they're expecting within the next year or two anyway, and they were already complaining of slow internet / network traffic. Friday was the first day I ever set food in the building, so I'm not sure if I'll be called upon to help them with the other mess their network has (it's not in pretty shape). They're on a temporary pfSense box that I loaned them until we replace it with a beefy server (or if they decide they want to spend oodles of money and get something like a Cisco 2950 or something...).

=============================================================== From: David White ------------------------------------------------------ And when I say Cisco 2950, I mean a 2951 or something similar in the 2900 series. I don't mean the old 2950 Catalysts. :) Of course, if we went that route, an ASA would be more appropriate, or both....