we can stop coding for IE

From: Rod 
less than 10%


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=============================================================== From: Ryan Bales ------------------------------------------------------ If only that were representative of a broader userbase than just visitors of w3schools :\ One day... Ryan Bales

=============================================================== From: James Nylen ------------------------------------------------------ And we can all stop using w3schools. http://www.w3fools.com/

=============================================================== From: William Roush ------------------------------------------------------ Yep, I write code for Orthodontists... they love IE on their machines. However I've been able to drop support for IE7 and below, so my life is

=============================================================== From: Rod ------------------------------------------------------ I cringed when the tech guy trying to pitch to my dentist offered one the the features of his service was that he could telnet into the system for remote support. On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:53:43 -0500, William Roush wrote:

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=============================================================== From: "Robert A. Kelly III" ------------------------------------------------------ I once saw an office system that was using Windows Telnet service to send sensitive personal information, including social security numbers, to another site. Also, the staff there thought that the name of their specific in-house system was "Gooey" (GUI), although they had no idea what it meant.

=============================================================== From: "Robert A. Kelly III" ------------------------------------------------------ Various sources seem to at least be in agreement that IE is continuing to decline. Some still have IE up around 20%, although I'm a bit surprised that wikimedia, which I figured would have a more diverse user base, is actually pretty close to this showing IE at just over 11%. Personally, I'd really like to see renewed growth in Firefox usage. While I generally like Google and Chrome is a fine browser, I think that Mozilla is probably one of the greatest advocates of a free and open web. Firefox is the only major browser made by a non-profit dedicated to building a better web, and I have been disappointed by Google's broken promise to remove H.264 in favor of open codecs and their choice to make hangouts proprietary and promote that versus open, standard technologies.

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ I "clear all history/cache/data/cookies/etc" a lot, mostly because I'm testing things and also because it cuts down on some cross-site tracking. Google's Chrome doesn't log you out of Google when you do that, and it seems to still do a lot of ad-tracking/marketing that when running Firefox side-by-side I get different ads. Less targettedin Firefox. I'm sure they also track my IP address, but I expect that. Next time I do a run and notice it, I'll have to grab screen shots. I'll go to the same site in Firefox and Chrome after clearing history and get relatively generic ads in Firefox and very very specific ones in Chrome. I do this because I don't have Flash and a few other things on my Firefox and then pull up the site in Chrome.

=============================================================== From: Rod ------------------------------------------------------ While some web devs have cheered that opera is just based on chrome now, I'm not happy with fewer browser choices. On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:15:53 -0500, Robert A. Kelly III wrote:

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ Ads? You have ads on your internet? Weird.... *- Chad W. Smith*

=============================================================== From: "Robert A. Kelly III" ------------------------------------------------------ I absolutely agree. I wonder if there is any chance of getting Opera Software ASA to open source the Presto engine if they are no longer interested in developing it?

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ Yeah, I do. It's how most content providers get paid. When I want to see them, I do. ie: searching for "stuff", sometimes the best providers of stuff, or alternatives I never consider show up in the ads. Otherwise, my brain blocks most of them out. What I want to know.. or feel I can trust a little bit.. is how my browser behaves. Professionally because I want to make sure things work right when I start with no cookies or cached code when working on my own stuff. Personally because I want to minimize certain amounts of tracking while I am poking around odd corners of the 'net. And yes, I know how to use Tor, Darknets, weird proxies, VPN's, etc.. but a certain amount of it should be handled by my browser. Otherwise I get stuck looking at ads for "Goth Pink Furry Bunny Slippers with slave collars, sparkly X-Bee earrings and a kVAR compensation capacitor)" in them for the rest of the day (or whatever else near or combined that I was searching for) Rod's right (slap me for saying that): Competition is good, having fewer browser's, browser engines, etc... limits the ecosystem, stifles creativity and may tie you to embedded features you don't want.