xp replacement

From: Nick Smith 
Are you sure its a driver issue and not flaky hardware? Did a driver get
updated recently around the time this started?
Drivers can have issues, but normally not if they have been working fine
unless there is an underlying hardware issue.
(with no major software changes (IMHO))

Im not advocating not switching them off windows, but it might be as simple
as swapping out a video card or reinstalling a driver (or older/newer
version of a driver)

I couldnt imagine trying to get my parents to use linux. That would be more
headache than its worth (for me, and them)

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:37 AM,  wrote:

> My parents have a PC that is a few years old. If I remember right, its a
> Sempron @ around 2.0 GHz, 2 GB RAM. They use for getting online, my mom
> plays PopCap style games, my dad has some games on Steam - Half-Life 2 er=
> and older. I=92ve left it alone with XP because that's what they prefer, =
> they=92ve been having software problems lately, mostly driver issues, and
> just want to be able to turn it on and use it.
> Anyhow.. Steam is looking pretty good on Linux, especially for the games
> my dad likes. There=92s obviously plenty of games available that my mom w=
> like. I just need to make the transition as easy as possible for them,
> since they don=92t take change very well. I=92m thinking Linux Mint with
> Cinnamon desktop, since its pretty similar to Windows. Any suggestions?

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=============================================================== From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" ------------------------------------------------------ You should be aware that the Steam client is only officially supported on Ubuntu (I'm not very happy about this choice, but I imagine after the Steam PC is released that it might be expanded). I don't have any experience with Mint, however I've heard a lot of people like it, and all the power to them. :) I have Xubuntu installed at home on a desktop I have set up in the living room for common use, and nobody has had any problems with it. I'm also working on getting my primary desktop rig expanded to a larger power supply - I have 8x serial attached SCSI disks installed for the system disks, and I'm trying to get it set up on a dual-boot with Ubuntu Studio. Feel free to contact me off-list if you have further questions, or would like some assistance. Good luck! a efer, but s, and mom would x Mint with

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Quoting Nick Smith : Well, anyone running XP needs to think seriously about changing to something else soon, as Windows isn't going to be providing security updates for XP for much longer. Whether it be upgrading to Win7 or Linux, you've got to upgrade to something.

=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ John, I am pretty certain nobody really cares about security updates for XP = since they never seemed to really work anyway. The single best reason to upgrade to ANYTHING else is 64BIT and memory = above 2GB. DO NOT mention XP 64... that was never actually a product, = otherwise it would have things like "Driver Support". All in all XP was a pretty good OS once you tore it apart and rebuilt it = the way you wanted it. The ENTIRE 3rd and 2nd world still operates on = XP. I have to keep an XP laptop here at the business because all of the = cellular software we use (from our factory in China) is XP only. something else soon, as Windows isn't going to be providing security = updates for XP for much longer. Phil Sieg President SeniorTech LLC / snapf=C5=8Dn=C2=AE www.snapfon.com phil.sieg@seniortechllc.com Phone: 423.535.9968 Fax: 423.265.9820 Mobile: 423.331.0725 "The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. = It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." Steve Jobs, 1955-2011

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 They will when the exploits that affect "all versions of Windows" and "all versions of IE" don't get patched in XP any longer. This is what killed 2000, it will be what kills XP. XP x64 was a horrible back-port of Server 2003 x64 w/ XP GUI. No one made Server 2003 x64 drivers for all that desktop hardware, and as it turns out, it was quite different than Desktop XP x86. We can only hope that next year is the year of Linux on the Desktop, for the sake of those 2nd and 3rd world countries. And I hope that you keep that dedicated, single-purpose computing device running that antiquated Swiss cheese of an OS disconnected from the rest of the world, and never, ever surf on it. Or open an email (that might trigger the OS HTML viewer, you know, IE). I have clients that run special software that only runs on XP. As a matter of fact, I replaced one a few months ago, and I knew I was in trouble when the first question from support to order a new version was "Are you running the Windows 98 version or the Windows XP version?". All my clients that require XP to run their businesses know that come April of next year (if we haven't already), those machines will not be allowed to talk to the rest of the world. I can't in good conscience recommend otherwise. Neither should you. Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSimRpAAoJEMP+wtEOVbcd14AH/jk6QvOaaBtjAhi6tnUINs4e eryW8W7yB7OlJTiKN0PBx3Q5JBDhZPKBBVuELR+Mmmx7VWifJLEI9wt4vhzG7tYu drnjweSAu+ekBd+jCS4IwLlfp8lFG66ukd/Tbofci1GUKFbcyaseDwclD30BrZbP Uosh0blEJIZYOsAzkU+MWp0k1zVYR9VO7TnnZVHeY5cV6aMs/QtorqXylOtnGZeH +MKoWRbKID9q1c62/vPelwjaFN52mR4/WjLOeDNutv4rfX2mMWHKQqmRx6QwiQkD Q5MiQIq4K4dmQuA5+HNL/nUKmcBECACL0K+kG+AqJA7N5gIdZTho2RWXHHzlo5U= =Qao/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ My XP machines will turn into honeypots come April.

=============================================================== From: Rod ------------------------------------------------------ I feel your pain. Some my family don't mind linux at all. Others insist = on = windows just so they can do FB & webmail. Yep that's all they do. Look into Peppermint OS, Joli Cloud, and Bohdi which I believe is a = lightweight mint derivative. = so = = ever, = an = =E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2013 =E2=80=8E12=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80= =8EPM l = a = om = = they = tly driver = am = . = like. I = int with >Cinnamon = -- = Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

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=============================================================== From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" ------------------------------------------------------ You might want to try Yellow Dog Linux - it's probably one of the longest lived distribution on the PPC architecture, and my first distro to try on a PPC host. www.yellowdoglinux.com Good luck! g =E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2013 =E2=80=8E4=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E07=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E= PM t bout Mint very =E2=80=99t e. r GB GB =E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2013 =E2=80=8E12=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E22=E2=80=8E =E2=80= =8EPM am th ra refer, but es, and y mom would ux Mint with

=============================================================== From: "Robert A. Kelly III" ------------------------------------------------------ ns? You might also consider KDE4, it rather resembles Windows in terms of the default layout of the desktop and it is pretty simple to select "Switch to Classic Menu Style" to get a "Start" menu that resembles XP more closely. It's also pretty easy to add commonly used application icons to the desktop, etc.