Android+Linux rant

From: Phil Sieg 
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So I am warming up to my Galaxy Note 2 quite a bit.

I wanted to transfer some video files from my Ubuntu server in the basement, to avoid some of the boredom while shopping this afternoon.  I grab a usb sync cord and my phone and go plug it up to my Ubuntu 12.04 Server.

Imagine my surprise/disappointment/frustration/chagrin when I plug it up and it mounts up a couple of useless av/player icons that will not allow me to just drag and drop my damned .avi files into my SD card. Why would I expect it to work that way? Well because on my Mac's and on my PC's that is exactly what I do, and it is in my mind one of the single greatest advantages over iOS... the ability to drag and drom ANY type of file into my phones storage without frakin around with/thru iTunes or some 3rd party widget.

Yes I googled HOW to fix this GLARING omission in uBuntu, I simply can't get my brain wrapped around HOW/WHY two LINUX devices won't interact as nicely as plugging up to a NON-LINUX device.

Never tried plugging an iPhone up to my Ubuntu box... bet it just "works"

Sheesh, for Christ's sake Canonical, how about tending to some really simple shit like this? Or do I have to wait for the "never gonna ship" Ubuntu Phone?
 
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=============================================================== From: trevor noblitt ------------------------------------------------------ My crunchbang install works fine with my phone on 4.2.1 paranoid android, is it just an issue with Ubuntu?

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ My Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean works perfect on my Fedora 18 installs. Mounts as a drive and I just copy/pasta all day long. Seems this is a Ubuntu issue?

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- I think server is the key here. Do you have samba or nfs set up on the server? What is giving you the av/player icons? Server??? The android device?

=============================================================== From: Dan Lyke ------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 4 May 2013 13:17:19 -0400 Phil Sieg wrote: Works fine with my HTC MyTouch Slide and my Xubuntu box, however... One of the things that has been pissing me off recently is that somehow my Xubuntu box has the Gnome Accessibility tools installed. This is the abomination that, among other things, turns on "slow keys" if you hold down shift for more than some length of time. Like, for instance, if you're mousing around on graphical stuff where shift is a modifier. Or if you just pause to think with your pinky on the shift key. The whole trend with Ubuntu is towards all this gawdawful crap that degrades the usability experience. I suspect that what you're running into is more of Mark Shuttleworth saying "Ubuntu should be more like Apple, we should pop up our equivalent of iTunes", and continuing to screw up what was once a really nice system. I should wipe and re-install at some point shortly, and I'm thinking that 13.04 might not be what I re-install with. Dan

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ Should just load up as a standard block device. After it shows the icons, run "mount" and paste up the appropriate line item here. It may be that it is trying to be "helpful" and just not showing the actual device which really is mounted and sitting behind another icon.

=============================================================== From: James Nylen ------------------------------------------------------ It doesn't use samba or nfs. It does use mtp [1], which I have had issues with and never really bothered to figure them out. And, I just tried with my Linux Mint 14 install, and I get "The folder contents could not be displayed... Timeout was reached". [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media

=============================================================== From: James Nylen ------------------------------------------------------ I agree with you about recent versions of Ubuntu. That plus the fact that they are sending your searches around without a clear way to opt out... no thanks. I am really happy with Linux Mint 14 (except for the fact that apparently my phone doesn't work with it).

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.android.gs/how-to-enable-usb-mass-storage-on-the-samsung-galaxy-note-2/ This is news to me. I think I will stay away from companies that disable USB mass storage capability. Crazy.

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ Try this: Settings -> Developer Options -> Tick USB debugging Then try plugging it in.

=============================================================== From: James Nylen ------------------------------------------------------ They have good reason for moving away from USB mass storage. It requires raw access to the underlying filesystem which prevents the host and the device from accessing the filesystem simultaneously.

=============================================================== From: James Nylen ------------------------------------------------------ No help :/ thanks for the suggestion though. I was able to use SSHDroid and sftp to get it to work.

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ I don't mind moving away from it, but to disable it entirely on purpose? That feels a bit overboard.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ May not be Ubuntu's fault. I know some Android devices are set up so that they can't be accessed that way. I seem to recall a similar rant awhile back from someone else. Turned out it was the way the Android device was configured so you can't just drag/drop onto it.

=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ So of COURSE usb debugging is on because my phone is rooted, and it must = be on for titanium backup to run. My true frustration is that it works as a plug in USB drive in both OS X = and Windows... Although OS X required the installation of a 3rd party = app to make it mount, but now it is just works. Maybe it IS just an Ubuntu thing. Seems silly. ***Rant Over*** Phil Sieg President SeniorTech LLC / Snapfon www.snapfon.com B: 423.535.9968 F: 423.265.9820 M: 423.331.0725 phil.sieg@seniortechllc.com wrote: http://www.android.gs/how-to-enable-usb-mass-storage-on-the-samsung-galaxy= -note-2/ disable USB mass storage capability. Crazy. that they are sending your searches around without a clear way to opt = out... no thanks. apparently my phone doesn't work with it). wrote: it not somehow the

=============================================================== From: Sean Brewer ------------------------------------------------------ Strange. I plug in my phone to my ubuntu machine at work everyday for charging and it mounts automatically every time.

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ Phil please explain where your seeing the strange icons. On the server?? The android device? ----- Original Message -----

=============================================================== From: "kitepilot@kitepilot.com" ------------------------------------------------------ I personally (for a number of reasons) ditched straight Ubuntu and Mint. I have been installing xUbuntu in all my boxes with no issues. So far... ET Phil Sieg writes:

=============================================================== From: Garrett Gaston ------------------------------------------------------ I have also had no luck mounting my Samsung Galaxy Tab to my Mint Linux. On= e of the reasons I never use the damn thing anymore. ment=2C to avoid some of the boredom while shopping this afternoon. I grab= a usb sync cord and my phone and go plug it up to my Ubuntu 12.04 Server.= =20 p and it mounts up a couple of useless av/player icons that will not allow = me to just drag and drop my damned .avi files into my SD card. Why would I = expect it to work that way? Well because on my Mac's and on my PC's that is= exactly what I do=2C and it is in my mind one of the single greatest advan= tages over iOS... the ability to drag and drom ANY type of file into my pho= nes storage without frakin around with/thru iTunes or some 3rd party widget= .=20 n't get my brain wrapped around HOW/WHY two LINUX devices won't interact as= nicely as plugging up to a NON-LINUX device.=20 s"=20 ly simple shit like this? Or do I have to wait for the "never gonna ship" U= buntu Phone?