Since someone brought zencart

From: Rod-Lists 
What is the mosrt secure shopping cart out there?

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ I really like Magento Commerce. Highly customizable, powerful, and very well supported. There is a community edition as well as an enterprise ediditon.

=============================================================== From: JonathanCalloway ------------------------------------------------------ Um, one you write yourself. . . (Sorry, couldn't resist!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod-Lists" To: "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group" Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:08:13 AM Subject: [Chugalug] Since someone brought zencart What is the mosrt secure shopping cart out there?

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Quoting JonathanCalloway : You could always use Mike Harrison's shopping cart. ;D

=============================================================== From: Jason Brown ------------------------------------------------------ I heard this from a friend...... I work with Magento a lot, it is an 800lb gorilla. It is very good in many ways, very frustrating in many others. Community edition is fine, after working with Enterprise for a few years I'm not sure I can recommend it to anyone anymore. Since being purchased by eBay the enterprise licensing fees have climbed exponentially. Support is non existent unless you have not modified a single component of the system.. Useless. --Jason

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ yeah but I want it to be secure . ;P ----- Original Message -----

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ I've been trying to get the last few users of "Cybrmall" off of it and onto something else. It's tough. The advantage of having your own cart and customizing it is you can customize it to do wxactly what the customer wants/needs. But once you have, and you are doing some extremely simple thing nothing else does.. you are stuck. Now you have a mission critical code base that is a high value target that has to be maintained, updated, backed up.. etc.. and secured. One of the "cybrmall" systems is on an insanely badly setup system at MediaTemple, (Not their reason it's been bad..) that has has the entire server nailed muliple times, completely owned. Not from my shopping cart, but from FTP, bad Jooma installs and just sysadmin stupidity. Luckily, that system stores nothing of value. Unluckily, they guy that did other stuff for them just wrote the CC info to a file for the office to pickup and process the next day. In plain text. Next time I'm drunk I'll post the email to the board of that non-profit telling them they are crazy and please turn off their non-profit org store. My point is: Creating your own e-commerce solution can be more liability than asset, unless that is all you want to do is maintain it. Doing it for 1000 stores is a great business, doing it for 5 or 1 (unless they are huge) is a stupid idea. I did about 50 of the them 10 years ago and realized I was more business coach and therapist than coder and service provider. If anyone has a serious (small) store.. do whatever it takes to get amazon or overstock or someone to do your store part. Other option: Magento and a crew that knows how to make it dance. On the odder side: Some people do good things with Drupal Cart or others. The key part is a clueful person to make it sing, dance and take care of it. Most small stores don't make enough money to make that a possibility. The cart/software/cms isn't the issue for small projects, the people are.

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ If you are going to build your own may I strongly suggest Stripe for CC processing? If you are a coder, you will thank yourself, and if you are business person, then your coders will thank you. (Tell them that Wil from sent you if they ask) The most awesome way to handle credit cards within your own system. Their API is amazing! We were up and running with it in ~5 minutes. On top of that, no CC info need ever be sent to your servers. //Did I mention that I like Stripe...? //No I don't work for them, but they did give me a T-shirt. Wil