GoDaddy DDNS by Anonymous

From: Dave Brockman 
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On 9/11/2012 11:43 AM, Bret McHone wrote:
> I'll have to board the ship with Aaron and Chad here. To say
> someone deserves for something to break because they bought it
> cheaply is just poor character. It's true that it's more likely to
> break depending on it's make and use, but for some it's not a big
> issue.
> 
> If you don't like the company or feel they aren't doing what they 
> should to protect their customers or provide bad products then say 
> that about the company, but insulting and degrading comments about 
> the customers of a company is just distasteful and immature.

I think you are missing the point.  The point is that if you spend
less than $20/month on your website and DNS hosting, then you have
absolutely no reason to complain when you get anything less than 100%
uptime, regardless of the underlying cause.  The sense of entitlement
bred into the last two generations is just jaw-dropping
unfuckingbelieveable to me.

Regards,

dtb


- -- 
"Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor
understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in
networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither
builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational
network."  RFC 1925
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=============================================================== From: wes ------------------------------------------------------ I was all set to let you have the last word, but there is one small point I feel is important to clarify. I was wrong to use the word "deserve." It does not represent how I feel about GoDaddy's customers. I don't know of a single word that covers it. I only said "deserve" out of convenience. It's more like, they should not be surprised when things break, whatever the cause. They paid for subpar service and that's what they got. I reiterate: this is fine for residential customers and those who just don't need it that bad. My vitriol is directed solely at those who should know better (businesses) or who rely on it for their livelihood. Feel free to rebut, I won't be arguing further unless another very important (to me) point comes up. -wes

=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ Much better. I have no problem with that statement as it is much more respectful. That was my only issue. Regards, B

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ It is a "Sense of entitlement" to not want to get attacked? You out of your damn mind. Fact is - whether I'm paying 50=A2 a month or $500 an hour - or just lookin= g at ads (which gives them money) - or just hitching a ride - I have the RIGHT to not be attacked. I don't believe that illegal aliens have the right to be in our country (hence the name) - but I do believe they have the basic human right to not be jumped in the streets. Whether they are paying taxes or not. That's not a "Sense of entitlement" - that's basic human decency. My stuff is my stuff, regardless of how much or how little I paid for it. And no one has the right to remove it from me - which is what this hacker freak did. Some of the arrogance and elitism bullshit on this thread is mind blowing. *- Chad W. Smith*

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 BTW: This wasn't an ANON or a DDoS attack at all. Fubar on internal routing systems at GoDaddy. My position remains the same. Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBPrt4ACgkQABP1RO+tr2T0QgCdHIHlHDdzxbvpG0T2L5fF3Y2j Pd0An0WL4QS2zx5W/wYdV74psdORk+x8 =cZv0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ If that is the case (and at this point, it's a he-said/she-said situation - companies don't like admitting they were hacked) then a simple "They don't have the right to expect 100% uptime" would be true. I never said anyone did. (Although GD claims to have 99.999% uptime - and if we are trusting them when they say "we weren't hacked" we should trust them when they say "we have 99.999% uptime".) But the sentiment that they deserve to be hacked, or don't have the right to expect to not be hacked is what really pissed me off. No one can realistically expect perfection - but everyone should be able to not expect to be attacked. There is a HUGE difference. *- Chad W. Smith*

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=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ I was trying to think of a scenario where someone is getting something for free (like being able to live in the USA) that other people pay for (like taxes) - but they shouldn't be literrally attacked for it. The car and shopping illustrations were being berated, so I changed it. *- Chad W. Smith* x ing t nd ak . :

=============================================================== From: Billy ------------------------------------------------------ I'm pretty sure that interstellar aliens are always illegal. I support the v= iews that ET's that purchase their tools from Walmart or their DNS from thos= e green guys from Centauri prime, should deserve a full core meltdown and a p= ossible singularity event. I also feel justified to blame McDonalds for gaining weight and for my high c= holesterol. It's cheap food. Don't blame me for wanting to save money. Blame= them for selling it to me. I also feel entitled to gain the absolute most of everything -- while gettin= g it for almost free. That's just how I roll. If you don't like it, them you= 're repressing me. Help. I'm the victim here. --b free (like being able to live in the USA) that other people pay for (like t= axes) - but they shouldn't be literrally attacked for it. at least our damn mind. ooking at ads (which gives them money) - or just hitching a ride - I have th= e RIGHT to not be attacked. hence the name) - but I do believe they have the basic human right to not be= jumped in the streets. Whether they are paying taxes or not. ff is my stuff, regardless of how much or how little I paid for it. And no o= ne has the right to remove it from me - which is what this hacker freak did.= . :

=============================================================== From: Aaron Welch ------------------------------------------------------ And I will take your silly looks for buying $40 in Mountain Dew, $60 in file= t mignon, and a case of beer with my food stamps. -AW views that ET's that purchase their tools from Walmart or their DNS from th= ose green guys from Centauri prime, should deserve a full core meltdown and a= possible singularity event. h cholesterol. It's cheap food. Don't blame me for wanting to save money. Bl= ame them for selling it to me. ing it for almost free. That's just how I roll. If you don't like it, them y= ou're repressing me. r free (like being able to live in the USA) that other people pay for (like t= axes) - but they shouldn't be literrally attacked for it. x at least our damn mind. ooking at ads (which gives them money) - or just hitching a ride - I have th= e RIGHT to not be attacked. hence the name) - but I do believe they have the basic human right to not be= jumped in the streets. Whether they are paying taxes or not. uff is my stuff, regardless of how much or how little I paid for it. And no= one has the right to remove it from me - which is what this hacker freak di= d. g. e:

=============================================================== From: Aaron Welch ------------------------------------------------------ Agreed. GD has a use for people like me. My critical stuff is cloud based at Amazon and Rackspace. -AW

=============================================================== From: Aaron Welch ------------------------------------------------------ In that case, it is time to move. -AW

=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ Damn you, now I want steak.... -B e r ve ot And eak g. :

=============================================================== From: Michael Scholten ------------------------------------------------------ He seems to have enough steak for the rest of us Bret. What do you think? What time should we be over? -Michael , : ave not And reak e:

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 https://www.godaddy.com/newscenter/release-view.aspx?news

=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ I'm not sure there is a steak in this world worth a 2 hour drive :D t, . : f have y not And freak te:

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ You have never eaten at Schula's in Chicago. -AW : ? n S it, r e: s have right t. . And freak ote: % t

=============================================================== From: Chris Mowery ------------------------------------------------------ Or Dinosaur BBQ in New York (City and Upstate). Chris : e r x ing t

=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ I've never had a steak that tastes better than the ones I grew in my = back yard. :) I knew everything that went into the meat, chose the cuts, = perfect marbling of the meat and gave em sweet feed and grain for about = a month before we took them to slaughter and had them aged. I ran out of = beef about 6 months months ago so I'm sad that I don't have any more = steak. 1/2 of that cow lasted us a year. Sold the other half and another = cow and it paid for our cost of buying the cattle and the processing. = Great stuff if you have the land for it. I think between to two cattle = we had about 700lbs of beef. That takes a *LOT* of freezer space. I may have to go to another cattle auction now=85 which means I'll have = to actually fix my fence to hold the blasted things in. Dangit=85=20 -B wrote: wrote: think? in filet mignon, and a case of beer with my food stamps. support the views that ET's that purchase their tools from Walmart or = their DNS from those green guys from Centauri prime, should deserve a = full core meltdown and a possible singularity event. my high cholesterol. It's cheap food. Don't blame me for wanting to save = money. Blame them for selling it to me. getting it for almost free. That's just how I roll. If you don't like = it, them you're repressing me. something for free (like being able to live in the USA) that other = people pay for (like taxes) - but they shouldn't be literrally attacked = for it. it. wrote: sales tax at least out of your damn mind. just looking at ads (which gives them money) - or just hitching a ride - = I have the RIGHT to not be attacked. country (hence the name) - but I do believe they have the basic human = right to not be jumped in the streets. Whether they are paying taxes or = not. My stuff is my stuff, regardle

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ Personally, I've never had steak worth $50 - or $30.... I think I am missing out. Googles nearest Kobe Steak restaurant. *- Chad W. Smith* ct ut d f o ? , : ve ot

=============================================================== From: Ed King ------------------------------------------------------ From: Chad Smith Personally, I've never had steak worth $50 - or $30.... I think I am missing out. Speaking of steak... while y'all had your panties in a wad trying to change each others viewpoint (did anyone accomplish that goal?), I was in Pigeon Forge relaxing in a hottub/jacuzzi in between steak dinners, surrounded by hundreds of classic American autos (Fall Rod Run), and only hours away from acquiring a Commodore sx-64 for my collection. I never complain about "noise" on the list because I don't know whats worse, people who make noise, or people who complain about it (or unsubscribe). Also I don't understand the big deal about digest mode... someone tell me why getting one big-ass email is better than getting them individually? I don't get it. Glad to be back home... I really, really missed my dog while I was away. NOT sorry for the off topic post.

=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ I have had steaks that cost almost $100 and were worth every penny. Try Smith & Wollenski's if you ever see one (Vegas & DC maybe others). Ed you never need to apologize for an off topic post because you never fail to amuse ;-) Sent from my iPhone *From:* Chad Smith Personally, I've never had steak worth $50 - or $30.... I think I am missing out. Speaking of steak... while y'all had your panties in a wad trying to change each others viewpoint (did anyone accomplish that goal?), I was in Pigeon Forge relaxing in a hottub/jacuzzi in between steak dinners, surrounded by hundreds of classic American autos (Fall Rod Run), and only hours away from acquiring a Commodore sx-64 for my collection. I never complain about "noise" on the list because I don't know whats worse, people who make noise, or people who complain about it (or unsubscribe). Also I don't understand the big deal about digest mode... someone tell me why getting one big-ass email is better than getting them individually? I don't get it. Glad to be back home... I really, really missed my dog while I was away. NOT sorry for the off topic post.

=============================================================== From: rdflowers ------------------------------------------------------ Digest mode: Much fewer, and you can tell if you are missing any. ----- Message from chevyiinova@bellsouth.net --------- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:49:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed King Reply-To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Chugalug] GoDaddy DDNS by Anonymous To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group ----- End message from chevyiinova@bellsouth.net ----- -- R. D. Flowers, Chattanooga, TN, USA http://chalice.us/poe/

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ All this talk of steak had me wanting to cook one. Heres a NY strip I cooked on my Big Green Egg tonight. Best steak I have ever had.... See the attached photo and try not to drool on your keyboards http://imgur.com/rNzi3