May be time to change your Yahoo password

From: John Aldrich 
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It might be time to change your password.
http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=13234

=============================================================== From: Sidney Hale ------------------------------------------------------ Who the hell still uses yahoo?

=============================================================== From: Sean Brewer ------------------------------------------------------ More than you would think.

=============================================================== From: Chris Mowery ------------------------------------------------------ Last year, here at Cleveland State, we did a survey of our students to see what they use for email. We had 1,382 responses and of those 44% used Yahoo, 38% used GMail, and 19% used Hotmail. Further, 33% called Yahoo their primary email. The Yahoo figure really shocked me. Chris

=============================================================== From: Sidney Hale ------------------------------------------------------ Did you do a cross correlation between majors and email providers? That I would find extremely interesting.

=============================================================== From: Dee Holtsclaw ------------------------------------------------------ For those of us unfortunates using AT&T DSL, there is no choice. All AT&T email is handled by them. That said, the address is still @bellsouth.net -- never used an actual @yahoo.com address though I think there's probably one associated with my YIM account.

=============================================================== From: Chris Mowery ------------------------------------------------------ Nah, that would have been interesting, though! Chris

=============================================================== From: Ed King ------------------------------------------------------ me the hell also have an @msn.com aka hotmail been thinking about getting an mcse cert too... what is wrong with me... it must be the particulate matter in the welding fumes that are affecting my blood/brain barrier

=============================================================== From: Dan Lyke ------------------------------------------------------ When I canceled my AT&T DSL, it took out my Yahoo account in ways that... well... yeah. Haven't been able to log in since. Dan

=============================================================== From: wes ------------------------------------------------------ maybe now you can! -wes

=============================================================== From: David White ------------------------------------------------------ I still use(d) it from time to time for junk mail, etc... but I've decided to get rid of it all together. I just changed my password on the account, and then submitted the Account Termination form. Good bye, Yahoo. I won't really miss you!

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ I always thought it interesting that even in its hey day, using a yahoo address for business was considered a sign of an amateur. However the same attitude does not apply to google mail now. Why is that? ----- Dee Holtsclaw wrote:

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ Only a yahoo would ask such a question. Yahoo had a kewlness factor for a very short while, and it quickly became the bog of mismatched broken toys of the net. Facebook is proof that they should have aimed lower. Much lower. On the good side, Yahoo did contribute some to the FOSS movement..

=============================================================== From: Sidney Hale ------------------------------------------------------ Because it's google and not yahoo.

=============================================================== From: Ed King ------------------------------------------------------ more amateur than this? butthead@juno.com (at the time, I was so proud to have that email address) all this talk about yahoo made me want to login and check activity on the vm/370 yahoo group... but I can't remember my damn password... or maybe it got hacked ----- Original Message ---- From: Rod-Lists To: CHUGALUG Sent: Fri, July 13, 2012 8:11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Chugalug] May be time to change your Yahoo password I always thought it interesting that even in its hey day, using a yahoo address for business was considered a sign of an amateur. However the same attitude does not apply to google mail now. Why is that? ----- Dee Holtsclaw wrote:

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ That is just fanboy talk. In its day there was little real difference between yahoo and what google is now. The reasons are more sociological than technological. Part of it I think is that the "cloud" meme had not hit yet. Or it could be that google was ahead of its time in integrating various services. ----- Sidney Hale wrote:

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ Probably because Gmail is often times used by small businesses. Some small business will use straight gmail, while others will take advantage of Googles services for businesses. I have about 49 domains myself... I use gmail as my main email rather than my domains. Mainly because when I log into gmail, I have my Google Talk right there, and gmails web interface is pretty superb. I haven't used an offline mail reader since gmail launched. I'd like to know how many people still use mail readers, such as Outlook or Thunderbird.

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ There is a real difference between Yahoo in its prime and Google today - billions of dollars of differences. And while success is not always an indication of quality - it certainly can be. And in this case, I believe the numbers speak for themselves. Google's products - Gmail included - are of a measurably, demonstrably higher quality than Yahoos. Period. The only real exception to that, in my opinion, is Flickr is better than Picasa - but neither company created their photo sharing app, they both bought them. Yahoo bought first and bought better - in that one instance. I have a number of account, both on Yahoo and on Google - for various reasons throughout the years. And I can tell you without reservation that Gmail is lightyears beyond Yahoo Mail. Whenever I have to use Yahoo mail, I feel like I've gone back in time about a decade. Their spam filters are all but broken compared to Gmail, the integrated chat client lacks anything beyond the most basic of functions. Yahoo Messenger proper can do voice chat, video chat, file sharing, etc - but the chat client on their email page can't do anything beyond one-on-one text chatting. I seem to remember back in the day, Yahoo Messenger was a leader in the field - but the fact that you can't even send a file to someone through their chat on their email page - in 2012 - is crazy. Google wasn't always the biggest. Google wasn't always the best. But the difference between Google and Yahoo - I think - comes down to the fact that Yahoo gave up about 7 years ago, and hasn't really tried since. Google doesn't exactly have anything to prove anymore - but they keep innovating. What was the last product Yahoo came out with? What was the last improvement they made to any of their products? They really seem to me to just be hanging on long enough for someone to finally buy them out. But - really - who would even want to buy them now? *- Chad W. Smith*

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ i don't necessarily disagree. But the point was not that. Use to be not having your own business e-mail was once looked down on. Where having a Yahoo addy as your business contact was a faux pas. Now using a gmail addy as business addy is ok. Yes you can set your bizness domain to gmail. But a lot of folk don't even bother with that. It speaks to a cultural/societal shift among net users. And yes I know quite few folk still yahoo mail & Groups. ----- Chad Smith wrote:

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Quoting Chad Smith : e a g r t Just to be clear, although my email address is @yahoo.com, I don't use =20 Yahoo except as a pass-through. All my various email addresses are =20 concatenated at SpamCop and I download my email from SpamCop who's =20 filters are some of the best, IMHO. :D

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Speak for yourself. I still find it highly unprofessional to not spend the

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ewwwww, juno..... what were you thinking? Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAAoEEACgkQABP1RO+tr2S8nQCgl3UwBLkl7oMD7Qf3A9lEq4Tu RrsAn35zrKq0su1jm5UIh/46/1MeSym/ =w+o1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I don't find the interface anywhere near superb.... of any web email client honestly. OWA 2010 sadly enough, I think is the current front-runner. And you can pry my local email client from my cold, dead hands. Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAAoXQACgkQABP1RO+tr2T15QCgvCRLmTBPLZwS9c1i1GBBPhGv qBEAoJmqeUbgODln+tTqxUXIayZe3FzS =tp2B -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Cultural shift, or clue-less masses converging? Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAAoiAACgkQABP1RO+tr2SRiQCfbXboyeu2jcNFPxRjePWIaNyd assAoLDZfqFgMqywwytRgyrfx/i4utKe =5bzp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Hey, back in the day, they were about the only FREE dial-up email provider around.

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 pffff, back in the day, there were so many Internet and dial-up connected Unix servers with default created logins, I mean, you could run that little program on the side when you dialed AOL, I mean, there were so many other ways you could get email besides juno.... :) Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAAqMQACgkQABP1RO+tr2T4JACcDYPScJSTM2QPig45fvWKA65t RcEAnjO483pO9u1Gbn+yqpJC8EbRMJi3 =IBEr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ Cultural shift. Definitely. I think most people online now know just how easy it is to get a domain name - so it's no longer impressive. It doesn't prove you're legit anymore than than a mybusinessname@yahoo.com email address would. It's just about as easy to set up, and not much more expensive. So using my chad@chadwsmith.com email address (which, yes, I really do have) isn't going to impress anyone - other than perhaps with my self-centered-ness and ego. But it's not going to do anything more to prove that I am Chad W Smith than chad78@gmail.com proves I was born in 1978. That's a cultural shift - based not on ignorance, but actually based on knowledge. And it's a Good Thing=99=AE=A9. Is it still necessary to have a website to be taken seriously as a business? Yes - but you also need a Facebook page and a Twitter account, and probably a YouTube channel as well. No where does your email address actually matter. Now, if you choose to use butthead@juno.com as your corporate account - then, yes, judgments will be made. *- Chad W. Smith* *Proud owner / operator / CEO / CIO / CFO / Board Chairman of ChadCo. Industries* *a subsidiary of ChadCo. Global MegaConglomerate - a Chad W. Smith Multinational Company http://www.chadwsmith.com/** *ChadCo. - "Because I Can!"*