7-12:American ISPs to launch massive copyright spying scheme

From: Rod-Lists 
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Anyone heard anything about this?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/15/american-isps-to-launch-massive-copyright-spying-scheme-on-july-12/

=============================================================== From: Ed King ------------------------------------------------------ thats it, I'm going back to fido net ----- Original Message ---- From: Rod-Lists To: CHUGALUG Sent: Thu, March 15, 2012 2:28:12 PM Subject: [Chugalug] 7-12:American ISPs to launch massive copyright spying scheme Anyone heard anything about this? http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/15/american-isps-to-launch-massive-copyright-spying-scheme-on-july-12/

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ I guess I will need to investigate using a VPN service from here on out. Its kinda hard for them to monitor what you do over an encrypted VPN connection.

=============================================================== From: Nick Smith ------------------------------------------------------ I wish i could setup my entire network to use tor, like everything that comes out of pfsense to the world automatically go over tor and no configuration necessary on the client end. pyright-spying-scheme-on-july-12/

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beware the false sense of security of a VPN connection like that. Don't for a second think anyone who has type of reasonable VPN service won't turn over your accounting records at the request of the courts. I'd suggest starting by running as much of your normal everyday traffic encrypted as humanly possible and do not use your ISP's DNS. Of course, I'm the sadistic bastard that runs all of my own services and have a more powerful datacenter in my closet than most of my clients' entire infrastructure, so you know, keep things in perspective and all :) Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9iTwsACgkQABP1RO+tr2QcPACeJBXVuBtR+U7dwOsve3Pt/Vhn NiUAniM3tDMC7fSuHhiDboahDVjCb2cq =d6yq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ It comes down to using a vpn service that a outside of US jurisdiction. The pirate bay eve offered a Vpn service. There's a lot of good offshore services that are good.

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ So where would my server get its DNS info? a foriegn DNS server? ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Brockman To: CHUGALUG Sent: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Chugalug] 7-12:American ISPs to launch massive copyright spying scheme -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beware the false sense of security of a VPN connection like that. Don't for a second think anyone who has type of reasonable VPN service won't turn over your accounting records at the request of the courts. I'd suggest starting by running as much of your normal everyday traffic encrypted as humanly possible and do not use your ISP's DNS. Of course, I'm the sadistic bastard that runs all of my own services and have a more powerful datacenter in my closet than most of my clients' entire infrastructure, so you know, keep things in perspective and all :) Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9iTwsACgkQABP1RO+tr2QcPACeJBXVuBtR+U7dwOsve3Pt/Vhn NiUAniM3tDMC7fSuHhiDboahDVjCb2cq =d6yq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ Opendns is adament about free speech and was in opposition of sopa but they are a US company and are able to be summoned. You may want to check www.opennicproject.org There's a lot of alternative DNS root providers as well.

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I repeat my earlier warning to be careful of where you place your trust. I suggest you do your research regarding the provider's policies on connection info retention and national and regional laws. Offshore does not mean beyond the reach of the US Government. Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9id10ACgkQABP1RO+tr2SmhACgut4dq9oHCQuKd4LDz8ojW9/5 fkcAoI9/pMNafyoo27DU7lLL2Mvgoz2J =wlzH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If you want, but there are plenty of DNS servers non-foreign that do not belong to your ISP you can use.... Unless they block/re-route outbound DNS queries, but I'm not aware of any local ISP who does that kind of evil... Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9iexsACgkQABP1RO+tr2TVggCfSgvKOxyG+WmKn6e2/HC6XNnR alcAoLLMC+7uxc2/6RXyIYti3wlZ/TjS =pCNn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ Well Duane, I think the guys at Piratebay were going to do something like this (maybe someone already posted it to the lug). http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/home/News.asp?id=60416

=============================================================== From: Dustin Salter ------------------------------------------------------ I think where this defers is this is not just a P2P DNS model, maybe I am missing something. This would be a full private network, an ISP ran on ISPs, driven by the users. Where the piratebay idea sounds software driven in the short article you provided, this would ultimately be network driven. A true darknet that you have to actively maintain your own equipment to be on and not just subscribed too. I haven't really been following the Pirate Bay as of lately and therefor didn't know about the P2P DNS and I'm sure some other groups are doing something similar to what I have provided. Just saying maybe it's time the Chugalug did something. Maybe we can encourage and and share with other lugs to make this grow.

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ I like the idea, and I am in for it. Theres alot of projects out there the Lug could contribute to, such as the OpenNic project, Namecoin, The piratebay DNS, as well as the "darknet" internal network as you described. I have a nice machine Co-located in knoxville that has plenty of freecycles I could contribute as a DNS root, or other services.