=============================================================== From: Eric Wolf ------------------------------------------------------ I had to buy a new printer after "upgrading" my wife from a Windows XP laptop to a MacBook running OS X Lion. In Lion, they broke CUPS' ability to print to SMB. My printer was connected to an XP-based server. I couldn't even get it to work by installing the Unix Services for Windows and connecting over LPD. To be fair, it was a combination of the printer's driver and CUPS. I also tried setting up Redmon and Ghostprint to act as a fake Apple Laserwriter, serve that over LPD, and... well, at that point I spent way too much time working on a problem that $89 for a new Epson FX530 would fix. -Eric -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734
=============================================================== From: Lisa Ridley ------------------------------------------------------ My understanding is that Apple didn't "confiscate" it, they purchased = the source code from the original author, Michael Sweet, when they hired = him in 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easy
=============================================================== From: Sean Brewer ------------------------------------------------------ That's right. It's still licensed under GPL2/LGPL2, so anyone's free to fork the project. Apple's just putting development efforts of the current CUPS code base on OS X, which makes sense for them.
=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ Well we will be losing cups browsing. For those of us who remember pre cups days, this really disturbing. So I will now have to have avahi on two machines to insure something that used to work without still works? Bollocks! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Brewer To: CHUGALUG Sent: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:57:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Apple orphans Linux CUPS features- handicaps open source printing That's right. It's still licensed under GPL2/LGPL2, so anyone's free to fork the project. Apple's just putting development efforts of the current CUPS code base on OS X, which makes sense for them.
=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ FUD cannons targeting Cupertino once again.... smh *- Chad W. Smith* *"I like a man who's middle name is W."* President George W. Bush - February 10, 2003 bit.ly/gwb-dubya
=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ you mean open darwin all over again. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chad Smith To: CHUGALUG Sent: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:07:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Apple orphans Linux CUPS features- handicaps open source printing FUD cannons targeting Cupertino once again.... smh *- Chad W. Smith* *"I like a man who's middle name is W."* President George W. Bush - February 10, 2003 bit.ly/gwb-dubya
=============================================================== From: Eric Wolf ------------------------------------------------------ I was watching my wife get horribly frustrated trying to get our new Epson to print double sided the way she expected. This is a printer model that Apple sells in their stores. She is using Apple Pages on OS X Lion. This should be the epitome of "ease of use" but it's still involves massive amounts of trial and error. Printing, in general, is still in the dark ages. I suspect people like Steve Jobs figured paper would have been completely obsolete by now so there was no sense trying to get it right. After all, who cares about the ease of use when it comes to buggy whips? I suspect the trends towards "cloud printing" and direct network connected devices will supplant peer-to-peer network printing. Instead of continuing with the PITA "connect to a shared device on machine X" which inherently exposes vulnerabilities for machine X, why not just focus on direct network connected devices or "cloud" based printing services? This is the kind of thing Linux excels at. One issue I've wondered about is that the printer industry has gotten away from page description standards. In the 80s, everything was either HP PCL, Postscript, or the Epson FX language. All printers supported one or more of these standards. You didn't really even need drivers. If a network-connected postscript printer, you could just rcp or scp the postscript file to the printer and the pages came out. You could also open the file in Ghostscript before sending it to make sure it looked right. Of course, 99% of this problem is due to the printer industry giving away cheap (free) Windows-only printers in order to get people to buy ink cartridges. That shifted the printer companies from making smarter printers to making more complex (and inherently less compatible) drivers. I welcome the death of CUPS. It's long overdue. -Eric -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734
=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ The Common Unix Printing System is losing features that make useful to linux users. Possibly forcing fork of a crossplatform printing system. That is not FUD. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chad Smith To: CHUGALUG Sent: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:07:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Apple orphans Linux CUPS features- handicaps open source printing FUD cannons targeting Cupertino once again.... smh *- Chad W. Smith* *"I like a man who's middle name is W."* President George W. Bush - February 10, 2003 bit.ly/gwb-dubya