Laptop

From: John Aldrich 
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Well, the new hard drive got here this morning and I installed it. I don't 
currently have a copy of Vista Home Premium (OEM) that I can install from, 
so I'm installing Ubuntu on the machine right now. Hopefully that will go 
well enough that I can use it. Also hoping I can manage to get the wireless 
working as I'd REALLY hate to be tethered to an ethernet cable. I mean, 
laptops are *supposed* to be mobile, right? :D Anyway, we'll see how things 
go, but right now, it seems as if Ubuntu is installing properly and 
everything! :)

=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ WHY in the name of GOD would you EVER install VISTA????=20 If you need Windoze, use XP, or 7. VISTA? I do not CARE if the laptop has the appropriate code for Vista on the = bottom. 90% of the time Vista drivers will work with 7 and 7 is a FAR = better OS as those things go... Phil Sieg President SeniorTech LLC / snapf=C5=8Dn=C2=AE www.snapfon.com Phone: 423.535.9968 Fax: 423.265.9820 Mobile: 423.331.0725 "The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. = It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." Steve Jobs, 1955-2011 don't=20 from,=20 go=20 wireless=20 mean,=20 things=20

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Well.... I *am* trying to be legit. :D I might try a Windows 7 upgrade from Vista later. Mainly just interested in testing out full functionality at this point. I hope I can avoid installing Windows at all and just use Ubuntu, but I'm not sure Ubuntu will see the wireless. :(

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ I'm with Phil on this, the performance differences and stability between vista and 7 is staggering. Vista is complete and utter crap

=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ Do yourself a favor: Install 10.04 I Like many others think Ubuntu 11 Sucks. Phil Sieg President SeniorTech LLC / snapf=C5=8Dn=C2=AE www.snapfon.com Phone: 423.535.9968 Fax: 423.265.9820 Mobile: 423.331.0725 "The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. = It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." Steve Jobs, 1955-2011 from=20 at=20

=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ +1

=============================================================== From: Micah Breedlove ------------------------------------------------------ +1

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Yeah. I'm downloading Xubunto 10.04 now.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ For the record, wireless works using closed-source drivers provided by Ubuntu. :D i.e. "It just works!" :D

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ I just installed 11.10 on my new (to me) and newly revived (new SSD card an= d RAM) Dell Mini 9. What's better about 10.04? *- Chad W. Smith* *"I like a man who's middle name is W."* President George W. Bush - February 10, 2003 bit.ly/gwb-dubya om

=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ The new interface SUCKS. In an effort to be more intuitive (read: like APPLE), they have made it = into the hardest to use OS since we left the command line behind... Yes it is easy to browse, email etc... but try doing anything else if = you don't know what you are looking for... Phil Sieg President SeniorTech LLC / snapf=C5=8Dn=C2=AE www.snapfon.com Phone: 423.535.9968 Fax: 423.265.9820 Mobile: 423.331.0725 "The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. = It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." Steve Jobs, 1955-2011 card and RAM) Dell Mini 9. What's better about 10.04? wrote: with. It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." the FAR upgrade from=20 at=20

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ +5 I have had more trouble out of 11.x than any other linux install over the past 5 years. Grub2 has broken perfectly working machines, display drivers do not work right off the bat, and I HATE the icon based menus. -AW om

=============================================================== From: Cameron Kilgore ------------------------------------------------------ No Unity. Also the 11 releases brought a torrent of hardware issues for me. Unity isn't a reinvention of interfaces, its a badly executed case of NIH that strips the control you had in Gnome out of your hands in favor of poor window management, poorly thought out workflow, and a persistent sacrifice of screen real estate. Downgrade now, or switch to Ubuntu Classic or Xfce. You will learn to hate Unity very quickly. --Cameron

=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ What he said! Couldn't remember the name of the FRAKIN new interface: UNITY Unified Piece of Shit is more like it. Cameron nailed it, just a little less colorfully. Phil Sieg President SeniorTech LLC / snapf=C5=8Dn=C2=AE www.snapfon.com Phone: 423.535.9968 Fax: 423.265.9820 Mobile: 423.331.0725 "The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. = It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." Steve Jobs, 1955-2011 for me.=20 NIH that strips the control you had in Gnome out of your hands in favor = of poor window management, poorly thought out workflow, and a persistent = sacrifice of screen real estate. hate Unity very quickly. card and RAM) Dell Mini 9. What's better about 10.04? wrote: with. It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." the FAR upgrade from=20 at=20

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ I dislike Unity as well, but overall have had no more problems with 11.10 than I have had with 9-10. My wife's laptop even had a few LONG outstanding issues fixed (Pulseaudio actually works now for example. There is one reason not to revisit 10s. Or you will have to at least eradicate pulse). Not to mention a better kernel in 11.10. Anyway I suggest latest and install the GUI of your choice instead of getting all tussled over the default choices. Last I checked TWM was still in the repos. =C2=A0It's for me. or e t

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ Is 10.04 / non-Unity *faster* than 11.10 / Unity? *- Chad W. Smith* *"I like a man who's middle name is W."* President George W. Bush - February 10, 2003 bit.ly/gwb-dubya IH rd e

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ I am sure it is if you are using just TWM. non-Unity with what? Gnome? e: ONG es for e R de y e

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Is Xubuntu 11 good or should I stick with 10.04?

=============================================================== From: Cameron Kilgore ------------------------------------------------------ Never tried it. Xfce is pretty cool. --Cameron

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Yeah... XUbuntu is an XFCE spin of Ubuntu. I've got XUbuntu 10.04 downloaded, but I"m also downloading the latest XUbuntu.

=============================================================== From: Dan Lyke ------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:44:06 -0400 John Aldrich wrote: So far I'm okay with Xubuntu 11.11, but as others have mentioned, I'd avoid Ubuntu 11.*. So, yes, Xubuntu 11 is good. Dan

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Kewl. I've burned Xubuntu 11.11 and am working on installing it over Ubuntu 11.11 right now.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Well, I checked the Batteries+ website. They want nearly $100 for a new battery for this laptop. Thank goodness for Froogle! :D Amazon only wants about $40 for a "extended run" battery for this laptop!

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ I disagree with Cameron & Phil on unity. At 1st I didn't like it but once I learned where the moved the furniture I got along with it well. Hell even winders move the furniture around forcing you to relearn where things are. But then again unity is not for hard core geeks it is meant to lure people raised on phones and ipads. If you want a real geek interce do a command line install of ubuntu or debian then install openbox. Otherwise install squeeze with the standard gnome desktop minus the buttons on the left if miss the old ubuntu.

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ I installed Snow Leopard. Much happier. *- Chad W. Smith* *"I like a man who's middle name is W."* President George W. Bush - February 10, 2003 bit.ly/gwb-dubya

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If you want a real geek experience, go play with Gentoo, LFS or NetBSD. Everything else left real geek requirements at the door 5 or 6 years ago. (OK, the other two BSDs might require a little, but not like above.) Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6kp60ACgkQABP1RO+tr2RypACeL99FSwLDCtlS3gJJrdZ8CLM2 WVsAni3fgJGISq5XmlSjcsY5IrV6YqYp =RhEt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----