XORG SUCKS!!!

From: John Aldrich 
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For some strange reason my system now refuses to understand that it can 
handle a resolution HIGHER than 1024x768. In the good old days of XF86, you 
could edit the config file. Now days you seem to have to settle for whatever 
the hell Xorg thinks your computer can handle!

I accidentally cut off the power to my system a little while ago and when it 
came up, I had to go in and delete the xorg.conf file. Now it won't see that 
it can do 1280x1024! 

How the heck do I get this fixed???? I already checked and there is no 
xorg.conf file. :(

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ If you create am xorg.conf file it will read and attempt to use it.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Quoting William Wade : Yeah, but I don't know what to PUT in the blasted thing! And I'm upset that I suddenly HAVE to do this because the system screwed up and can't tell that it can do 1280x1024!

=============================================================== From: Randy Yates ------------------------------------------------------ If your video is an and card use: aticonfig --initial If its nvidia use: nvidia-xconfig Both as root or with sudo If the card is something else it'll be more involved

=============================================================== From: Randy Yates ------------------------------------------------------ Blasted phone and its autocorrect... AMD*

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Quoting Randy Yates : It's an nVidia card, but that command doesn't make things any better... makes 'em worse. :( Now it's completely hosed the whole machine so I can't even switch to a different VT! :( I'm *pretty* sure it's nVidia chipset... I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it is. It's the onboard video for my motherboard.

=============================================================== From: Randy Yates ------------------------------------------------------ Boot to a recovery console (should be a grub option.) See if you now have a xorg conf file. If nvidia isn't working, set the device driver in xorg to vesa until you work out what kind of video you have.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Quoting Randy Yates : I get video and such back if I remove the freakin' xorg.conf file. I am about 99.9% sure it's nVidia as it's using the Noveua driver when I look at /proc that's what it shows as loaded.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Thank goodness for SSH! If I didn't have that, I'd have to boot off a rescue CD or something! :D

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Quoting John Aldrich : I have the problem of no video and no VTs resolved, but I still need some help figuring out why the FSCKing system won't let me go above 1024x768!!! Any other ideas??

=============================================================== From: Billy ------------------------------------------------------ $ X -configure $ vim /root/xorg.conf.new # or something similar $ X -config /root/xorg.conf.new ; DISPLAY=:0 xterm & (sleep 10 ; killall -HUP X) Can you tell me what the above will do? --b

=============================================================== From: Benjamin Stewart ------------------------------------------------------ Anti-foot-ventilation tip of the day: Never DELETE a config file, only MOVE or RENAME them, until you're sure you really wanted to delete them! Especially xorg, because it's such a pain to get back right! I learned that the hard way, too. I feel your pain, buddy!

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ My system has never needed an xorg.conf file.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Not to mention that every time I have one, it makes things worse.

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ You should not need an xorg.conf file in this modern day. Can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file contents? Do you have the nvidia drivers installed? If you do need an xorg.conf file, it is a lot easier than it used to be. Just put in only the stuff you want that is different than what Xorg chooses. For example to switch to the nv driver (over nvidia or neuvio or whatever that one is) Section "Device" Driver "nv" EndSection That is it. Nothing else. (This btw might be worth a try if you do not need GL)

=============================================================== From: "kitepilot@kitepilot.com" ------------------------------------------------------ Hello John: Try xrandr -q in a terminal. That will show you the resolutions that your system "knows about". I didn't say "resolutions that your system can do", I said "resolutions that your system knows about". There are ways to make xrandr to accept other resolutions, but if xrandr "doesn't know about it", it won't happen... You didn't say what your "system" is, if it is a Debian derivative, sudo dpkg-reconfigure-phigh -phigh xserver-xorg should do the trick. If it is not a Debian derivative, what have you been smoking lately? Can I have some? ;-) ET John Aldrich writes:

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ No I do not. Maybe I should? Nope. Don't need GL as far as I'm concerned.. :D I'll try and insert my xorg.log here... [ 2796.255] X.Org X Server 1.10.4 Release Date: 2011-08-19 [ 2796.255] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 2796.255] Build Operating System: x86-02 2.6.32-131.2.1.el6.x86

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Here's my xorg.log.old file: [ 291.593] X.Org X Server 1.10.4 Release Date: 2011-08-19 [ 291.593] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 291.593] Build Operating System: x86-02 2.6.32-131.2.1.el6.x86

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ [john@slave1 ~]$ xrandr -q xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1152 x 864, maximum 1920 x 1200 default connected 1152x864+0+0 0mm x 0mm 1920x1200 60.0 1920x1080 60.0 1600x1200 60.0 1680x1050 60.0 1400x1050 60.0 1360x768 60.0 1280x1024 60.0 1280x960 60.0 1280x800 60.0 1280x720 60.0 1024x768 60.0 800x600 60.0 640x480 60.0 1152x864 60.0* It's Fedora 15. I have been using RedHat/Fedora-based stuff for so long that it's hard to switch to Debian/Ubuntu. Besides... I like living on the cutting edge (most of the time) and Fedora is good for that. :D I really don't want to have to step back to an older version of KDE. :D Besides... I have a Debian box I'm trying to set up Drupal on so I can get some practice before I go to work for / with Lee and Lisa, and I can't even get VNC to work on it! :(

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ BTW, the previous list was my VNC session. It appears that the "local console" doesn't know quite as many resolutions... here's the info from that session: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096 VGA-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 338mm x 270mm 1280x1024 60.0 + 75.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.1 60.0* 800x600 75.0 60.3 640x480 75.0 60.0 720x400 70.1

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ I would suggest using the official NVidia driver. I use it. I have tried the Nouveau, and although very impressive what they have done so far, it is just not up to snuff yet. I wish Fedora, et. al. would ask you in the install about stuff like this. Nouveau or nv or download nvidia? Oh well. Fedora 15 Nvidia install: http://linuxsoftwareblog.com/?p=516 (first hit on Google, untested, but looks about right. Instead of the mess with grub, you should try uninstalling xf86-video-nouveau) Change to nv (no 3D): remove xf86-video-nouveau, install xf86-video-nv I looked around and there are various bugs with Nouveau and screen resolutions. Some are picking up alternative outputs. Is this a dual head card? Might be as simple as switching to the other output. Wil ...

=============================================================== From: "kitepilot@kitepilot.com" ------------------------------------------------------ Do you have a ~/.config/monitors.xml file? Rename it... I'm unfamiliar with Fedora (or anything RH, rpm, etc...) ET PS: Feel free to send Debian questions my way, I don't know what you mean by "I can't even get VNC to work on it!" but I have done VNC everywhere-to-Debian and Debien-to-everywhere for years. John Aldrich writes:

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Thanks. I just tried your suggestion and it didn't help. :( I'll email you off-list regarding VNC.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ No...single-output. That reminds me, though... I saw some interesting boot messages... Hmm.. Here's the interesting message from the log: Oct 17 10:08:57 slave1 kernel: [ 1.640697] [drm] nouveau 0000:00:0d.0: unknown connector type: 0xff!!

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ That is odd. There are one or two bugs regarding messages such as this. Most of them have been fixed, but you never know. Might be worth a look at dmesg | grep nouveau if you are committed to getting Nouveau working like a good GPL only-er. :) t 0:00:0d.0:

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Well, I installed the nVidia driver and it works a LOT better out of the box. I'm still having an issue in XFCE, but ONLY on the local console... none of the window bars at the top of the window show up... but in VNC, they're there... and if I switch to Plasma (KDE) it works fine too. I wonder if there isn't a profile setting that got grunged or something...

=============================================================== From: Ryan Macy ------------------------------------------------------ Have you tried removing and reinstalling the video driver? Ryan Macy Me@rmacy.us C: 423.385.9751

=============================================================== From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" ------------------------------------------------------ Or overwriting the Xorg.conf that exists in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf with the one it created for you? :) te: oot 000:00:0d.0:

=============================================================== From: Average SecurityGuy ------------------------------------------------------ XKCD has an appropriate comic for this thread. http://www.xkcd.com/963/ : r.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Upgraded to the nVidia driver. Seems to be working better, except for some minor glitches... *sigh* Works GREAT in VNC, sucks on the local console... I'd just switch to Plasma, except the KDE folks in their INFINITE wisdome decided we don't need no stinking icons on the desktop! :( Plus I don't have a high-end video card so I'm trying to run XFCE4 here as my window manager and it's not happy on the local console! :(