HP to Spin Off PCs, Eyes Software Purchase- Bloomberg

From: Lisa Ridley 
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This is an interesting move from a company that seems to have lost their way=
....now they're going way off into the weeds.

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-18/hp-said-to-be-near-10-billion-au=
tonomy-takeover-spinoff-of-pc-business.html


Lisa Ridley
RoveWorks


=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ Especially since they have made some awesome slates in the past. Didn't they pick up webOs or something like it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Ridley" To: "CHUGALUG" Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 1:07:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Chugalug] HP to Spin Off PCs, Eyes Software Purchase- Bloomberg This is an interesting move from a company that seems to have lost their way....now they're going way off into the weeds. http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-18/hp-said-to-be-near-10-billion-autonomy-takeover-spinoff-of-pc-business.html Lisa Ridley RoveWorks

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ And as that software that came pre-installed on your HP worked so well. It least I have my RPN Calculator still. They can't mess up there. :)

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ Nooooo! HP is going the way of IBM And as that software that came pre-installed on your HP worked so well. It least I have my RPN Calculator still. They can't mess up there. :)

=============================================================== From: Nick Smith ------------------------------------------------------ Just saw this.... http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/18/hp-will-discontinue-operations-for-webos-devices/

=============================================================== From: Cameron Kilgore ------------------------------------------------------ Speaking as someone who burned through 1 HP laptop and now it seems like another...Nothing of value was lost. Bill Hewlitt is probably spinning in his grave. WebOS might have been pretty and practical, but it could not compete with iOS and Android even when WebOS seemed more complete. Maybe Google can buy some more patents. --Cameron

=============================================================== From: Tom Wilson ------------------------------------------------------ My wife's HP has been cantankerous since day one. My old DV-6850 has been stunningly reliable. Buying an HP laptop is like buying a lottery ticket, I guess. WebOS is a shame. By all appearances, it was pretty slick. Sad to see Palm finally die this way.

=============================================================== From: David White ------------------------------------------------------ I've never been a fan of HPs, and have avoided them like the plague. I've never owned one personally, but have heard too many stories, and have worked on too many of them as a tech... Anyway, funny: I just saw a tweet from someone looking to sell a HP Veer. I kind of want to scream "Don't but it"! Sent from my iPhone

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ What does this mean for their printer business? HP printers have been rock solid under linux. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David White" To: "CHUGALUG" Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:23:34 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Chugalug] HP to Spin Off PCs, Eyes Software Purchase- Bloomberg I've never been a fan of HPs, and have avoided them like the plague. I've never owned one personally, but have heard too many stories, and have worked on too many of them as a tech... Anyway, funny: I just saw a tweet from someone looking to sell a HP Veer. I kind of want to scream "Don't but it"! Sent from my iPhone

=============================================================== From: Cameron Kilgore ------------------------------------------------------ I've never owned one personally, but have heard too many stories, and have worked on too many of them as a tech... I had one HP laptop suffer a broken Northbridge from poor cooling, and now the one Mike graciously gave me to find work seems like it's encountering "phantom wifi" in that I can't even pull it up using lspci. Then again, ever since I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04, Wifi hasn't worked right. HP printers have been rock solid under linux. I'd hope they aren't that stupid, but hey, this just happened. --Cameron

=============================================================== From: Lisa Ridley ------------------------------------------------------ My last HP laptop experience is what sent me screaming to Apple. Bought = a new HP laptop about 5 years ago, and it spent more time at HP getting = warranty work done than it did in my hands. * Replaced the DVD drive * Replaced the HD drive * Replaced the fan assembly * Replaced the wireless card -- twice * Replaced the motherboard -- twice And every time, it would take me hours of "tech support" with their = wonderful overseas support staff to convince them that there was = something wrong, and a day and a half to put everything back on the damn = thing when I got it back. Divesting themselves of the PC business is a good move - they have no = idea what they're doing in that arena. Maybe they'll concentrate on = their printers and improve the quality of them (which has deteriorated = in recent years as well). I have an old HP laser printer that's = probably 11 or 12 years old now that's still going strong (as long as I = can continue to find drivers for it), yet the multi-function laser = printer I bought three years ago has already been replaced with another = brand. like another...Nothing of value was lost. Bill Hewlitt is probably = spinning in his grave. been stunningly reliable. with iOS and Android even when WebOS seemed more complete.

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ Don't buy: HP pavilions or any consumer end products DO Buy: HP buisness products. My HP Elitebook 8730w continues to be the best and most reliable (and heaviest) laptop I've owned My last HP laptop experience is what sent me screaming to Apple. Bought a new HP laptop about 5 years ago, and it spent more time at HP getting warranty work done than it did in my hands. * Replaced the DVD drive * Replaced the HD drive * Replaced the fan assembly * Replaced the wireless card -- twice * Replaced the motherboard -- twice And every time, it would take me hours of "tech support" with their wonderful overseas support staff to convince them that there was something wrong, and a day and a half to put everything back on the damn thing when I got it back. Divesting themselves of the PC business is a good move - they have no idea what they're doing in that arena. Maybe they'll concentrate on their printers and improve the quality of them (which has deteriorated in recent years as well). I have an old HP laser printer that's probably 11 or 12 years old now that's still going strong (as long as I can continue to find drivers for it), yet the multi-function laser printer I bought three years ago has already been replaced with another brand.

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ +1 I have bought, sold, and used HP Proliant gear for years. Their servers are rock solid and easy to get parts for and repair. -AW

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ I've made a general rule for any computers I buy: NEVER BUY CONSUMER STORE BRAND PRODUCTS This applies to HP, Dell, Lenovo, etc. If you buy an HP laptop from Best Buy, chances are the workmanship is rather shoddy and it will break eventually and be hard to get repaired or replaced. If you buy an HP Elitebook, Dell Precision, Lenovo Thinkpad Workstation.....they tend to put a LOT more care and more quality into them. Why? Because buisnesses are more willing to pay for quality, whereas consumers care more about how much it hits their wallets than quality. I will NEVER buy a non workstation model laptop again

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Pretty much across the board, everyone has bad models, bad manufacturing runs, shitty base hardware, etc. It won't die -- it lives on in print servers and cars! Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5OcmMACgkQABP1RO+tr2RU1wCffXgYGQvyk0tjHPGbG5mGj10z WlAAnjioYUb8hgrAE6A4J+LuC2TUIvz1 =OxUd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As long as they have good margins, they will keep them. It would truly be an effed up day when HP no longer makes laser printers.... Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5OcpcACgkQABP1RO+tr2T5YwCgjOIklq3mrf8XrNHfwxs2OrFo zNsAn3mll5aidxbwskPN9FmruJMUFYJi =tJUs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Dan Lyke ------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:44:02 -0500 Lisa Ridley wrote: Huh. I abused the crap out of my dv6452se and it's still kicking. And on a lot of the little details I prefer it to the Asus that followed it. The DVD drive did die, but really I barely noticed that. Dan

=============================================================== From: Tom Wilson ------------------------------------------------------ It's so strange. You either get a lemon like that or a tank like mine. Seems there is no happy medium. It isn't unique to their laptops, either. Back in the stone age when ComputerLand was still around, we'd get in a shipment of Vectra 286-16 towers. One in five, on average, was DOA. Three would be back in the service area shortly after sale and the remaining one probably boots and runs to this day.

=============================================================== From: Cameron Kilgore ------------------------------------------------------ The degree of unhappiness I had with HP, as well as my growing business needs, also have me running to Apple or Lenovo. Probably Apple. At Black Snow I had an AWESOME Dell Performance Latitude -- it was the ugliest brick you could have but I never had issues with it. --Cameron

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ I went from Dell Latitudes and Precisions to a Macbook Pro. I would not suggest anything other than those to someone who lives off of a laptop. I had an Lenovo that I had to buy when I was doing the Microsoft gig, but all the crap that IBM puts on it made it almost unusable (running Win7 Pro). Speaking of which, anyone need a 15" Macbook Pro or a Lenovo laptop? I upgraded to a 17" Macbook Pro during tax free weekend. -AW

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ I really REALLY want to purchase a Lenovo W700

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The HP Elitebook I have from work now is ... pretty damn nice. I'll keep you posted on how it holds up. I have that problem with all the vendors. That's why I order w/o an OS, and/or format and reinstall on first boot in my possession. Cue discussion on how it's easier to pirate Windows 7 than it is to pirate XP now.... Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5O1rgACgkQABP1RO+tr2ScigCeIKJxmrXNhl2jZ0MqWfjVvrnN TOUAn2RibvWQdI5IqtvEjTdP8v3g/Pw4 =haTA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Jonathan Calloway ------------------------------------------------------ I thought Apple was a four letter word on this list. . . .

=============================================================== From: Cameron Kilgore ------------------------------------------------------ Please do understand that just because we may or may not hate a company's business practices, some of us don't respect the quality of the product they turn out. And the faster path I have to Unix-like system with the ability to run Creative Suite the happier I am. --Cameron

=============================================================== From: Lisa Ridley ------------------------------------------------------ It may be, but I know of at least 8 people personally on this list that = have Apples (and those are just the ones I know about)=85.I'm willing to = bet there's more.

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ I have older Apple products, but none since they converted to Intel bet

=============================================================== From: Dan Lyke ------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 18:46:34 -0500 Lisa Ridley wrote: I know nothing about a MacBook Pro, 2 iPhone 3Gs, and an iPad. And I will continue to deny that I have such devices. Dan

=============================================================== From: "Dr.D " ------------------------------------------------------ I have only run HP server sense I have been able to afford them. They don't die. Speaking of . I have 3 GOOD used HP Proliant servers for sale. These are the tower models.. each has(2) 73MB hot swap drives set at Raid 1 Make offer .. contact me off list for more details.. Dr.D

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Model/Generation/CPU/RAM (RAID Controller would be nice) need to be listed before interest can be determined... Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5QN6UACgkQABP1RO+tr2RUGACgvCwHq4exuHJhKlt+sO+K//Fr c9sAnA6XXNCeVM0dz9ORPW4Wk3xYMyOI =lvIR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----