Ubuntu help

From: Aaron welch 
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I have a project that requires Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to run.  I am installing
this on servers with the following specs:

Intel S5000PSL Mainboard
2x DC 2.33Ghz Xeon 5148
8GB RAM
4x 250GB SATA

The drives are partitioned and formatted:

sda  (SATA0)
sda1 /boot ext3
sda3 / ext3
(swap)

sdb, sdc, sdd
software RAID0

I cannot get this machine to boot off the HDD.  If I boot up the install CD
and choose boot off the first drive it works (after passing CMD line option
nomodeset), but it will not boot on its own.  This is driving me mad as this
should just work.  The downside is that I have to do this for 6 machines
ASAP for a customer.  I have edited the grub.cfg to set the "nomodeset" on
boot at the default as suggested by forum posts, I have verified that the
MBR of sda is flagged bootable, but still no dice.  I really need some
insight on this one as I am running out of time.

-AW



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Aaron Welch
423-505-9999
n2nightfall@gmail.com
"Enabling people to do great things with their own ideas."

Chief Mechanic @ HyvMynd Technologies
aaron.welch@hyvmynd.com
423-505-9999

=============================================================== From: Average SecurityGuy ------------------------------------------------------ Have you tried reinstalling? Remove the other SATA drives and build the machine with the one drive and see if that will boot. After that put in the other SATA drives. Are all the SATA drives on the same controller?

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ Reinstalled at least 5 times on 2 separate machines. Tried building it on one drive then booting, then moved that drive to another machine, but still no dice. All the drives are on the Intel FakeRAID builtin controllers. -AW

=============================================================== From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" ------------------------------------------------------ I'd offer to help you, and at work we use the same motherboards, but we use a real distro, RHEL, and hardware RAID controllers, MegaRAID and 3ware. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:30, Average SecurityGuy wrote: he te: lling stall g me mad or 6 e =A0I

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ The more i read this the more it seems a hardware issue. I haven't done a multi volume install in a while and not on this kind hardware. But I have seen it done. I'd call their support and once you get it worked out use presseeding for install. https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron welch" To: "CHUGALUG" Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:22:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Chugalug] Ubuntu help I have a project that requires Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to run. I am installing this on servers with the following specs: Intel S5000PSL Mainboard 2x DC 2.33Ghz Xeon 5148 8GB RAM 4x 250GB SATA The drives are partitioned and formatted: sda (SATA0) sda1 /boot ext3 sda3 / ext3 (swap) sdb, sdc, sdd software RAID0 I cannot get this machine to boot off the HDD. If I boot up the install CD and choose boot off the first drive it works (after passing CMD line option nomodeset), but it will not boot on its own. This is driving me mad as this should just work. The downside is that I have to do this for 6 machines ASAP for a customer. I have edited the grub.cfg to set the "nomodeset" on boot at the default as suggested by forum posts, I have verified that the MBR of sda is flagged bootable, but still no dice. I really need some insight on this one as I am running out of time. -AW -- Aaron Welch 423-505-9999 n2nightfall@gmail.com "Enabling people to do great things with their own ideas." Chief Mechanic @ HyvMynd Technologies aaron.welch@hyvmynd.com 423-505-9999

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ Check both bios and the embedded raid config for boot options. Perhaps it is trying to boot that raid set somehow? I would also check unplugging the other 3 hdds and see if it will boot with just the OS hdd in. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Aaron welch wrote= : it on ll rs. the alling nstall ng me mad for 6 he =C2=A0I

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ found this. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron welch" To: "CHUGALUG" Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:33:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Ubuntu help Reinstalled at least 5 times on 2 separate machines. Tried building it on one drive then booting, then moved that drive to another machine, but still no dice. All the drives are on the Intel FakeRAID builtin controllers. -AW Have you tried reinstalling? Remove the other SATA drives and build the machine with the one drive and see if that will boot. After that put in the other SATA drives. Are all the SATA drives on the same controller? I have a project that requires Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to run. I am installing this on servers with the following specs: Intel S5000PSL Mainboard 2x DC 2.33Ghz Xeon 5148 8GB RAM 4x 250GB SATA The drives are partitioned and formatted: sda (SATA0) sda1 /boot ext3 sda3 / ext3 (swap) sdb, sdc, sdd software RAID0 I cannot get this machine to boot off the HDD. If I boot up the install CD and choose boot off the first drive it works (after passing CMD line option nomodeset), but it will not boot on its own. This is driving me mad as this should just work. The downside is that I have to do this for 6 machines ASAP for a customer. I have edited the grub.cfg to set the "nomodeset" on boot at the default as suggested by forum posts, I have verified that the MBR of sda is flagged bootable, but still no dice. I really need some insight on this one as I am running out of time. -AW -- Aaron Welch 423-505-9999 n2nightfall@gmail.com "Enabling people to do great things with their own ideas." Chief Mechanic @ HyvMynd Technologies aaron.welch@hyvmynd.com 423-505-9999

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ Try disabling the onboard fakeraid in the BIOS. One thing you might also check is how your individual SATA ports are setup in the BIOS as well. on some mainboards, you can set one or two ports up as an "IDE" emulation, while the others are AHCI, or RAID. This will cause you headaches. So, check that bios, turn off the fakeraid, and make sure all the SATA ports are setup as AHCI,

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ Just to be clear, I am not booting from the RAID. This is just straight SATA drives with a software RAID0 for scratch space. I cannot get it to boot off the onboard controller at all unless I boot from CD. It boots past the BIOS screen and gives me a blinking cursor, hits the boot drive, then another cursor after a few seconds. If I hit shift to get the GRUB menu, it says loading GRUB then dies. -AW

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ RAID has always been disabled. AHCI is on. The only thing I have not done is remove the "enhanced" function of the onboard SATA controller to take it back to Master/Slave IDE emulation. -AW

=============================================================== From: Average SecurityGuy ------------------------------------------------------ Have you tried any other versions of Ubuntu? Could you use a different distro or is the client insisting on Ubuntu?

=============================================================== From: Average SecurityGuy ------------------------------------------------------ Do you have the latest BIOS firmware?

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ It is the fakeraid controllers. If he is not dual booting use software raid or get a true hardware raid. " Virtually none of these are true hardware RAID controllers. Instead, they are simply multi-channel disk controllers combined with special BIOS configuration options and software drivers to assist the OS in performing RAID operations. This gives the appearance of a hardware RAID, because the RAID configuration is done using a BIOS setup screen, and the operating system can be booted from the RAID." " Also, it's not clear that there is any performance gain using hardware fakeRAID under Linux instead of the built-in softRAID capability; the CPU still ends up doing the work. The most common reason for using fakeRAID is in a dual-boot environment, where both Linux and Windows must be able to read and write to the same RAID partitions." https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Average SecurityGuy" To: "CHUGALUG" Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:13:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Ubuntu help Have you tried any other versions of Ubuntu? Could you use a different distro or is the client insisting on Ubuntu? I have a project that requires Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to run. I am installing this on servers with the following specs: Intel S5000PSL Mainboard 2x DC 2.33Ghz Xeon 5148 8GB RAM 4x 250GB SATA The drives are partitioned and formatted: sda (SATA0) sda1 /boot ext3 sda3 / ext3 (swap) sdb, sdc, sdd software RAID0 I cannot get this machine to boot off the HDD. If I boot up the install CD and choose boot off the first drive it works (after passing CMD line option nomodeset), but it will not boot on its own. This is driving me mad as this should just work. The downside is that I have to do this for 6 machines ASAP for a customer. I have edited the grub.cfg to set the "nomodeset" on boot at the default as suggested by forum posts, I have verified that the MBR of sda is flagged bootable, but still no dice. I really need some insight on this one as I am running out of time. -AW -- Aaron Welch 423-505-9999 n2nightfall@gmail.com "Enabling people to do great things with their own ideas." Chief Mechanic @ HyvMynd Technologies aaron.welch@hyvmynd.com 423-505-9999

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ I am debating doing a 9.10 install and upgrading if it works. -AW

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 For S&G, why don't you try a Debian install (with the same layout) and see if it's any better. Sounds like some GRUB confusion to me... Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4wPl4ACgkQABP1RO+tr2SyNgCgi30l3qNjiDAsvFsRY/pfHXrg AvUAoL1rVd+uWQikDEC4tyAN+lg++fzI =M8Qq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Nick Smith ------------------------------------------------------ have you possibly tried another distro to see if its just an ubuntu thing? maybe straight debian? On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Aaron welch wrote= : ing all me mad 6 =A0I

=============================================================== From: Erik Hanson ------------------------------------------------------ You could try booting to a liveCD and reinstall GRUB. Is it a new enough Ubuntu to be using GRUB2? If so, try using plain old gru= b. Super Grub Disk may fix your problem too. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ ling tall CD on as this ines et" on me

=============================================================== From: James Nylen ------------------------------------------------------ This. I'd try booting to the install CD (or to the installed OS from the CD) and playing around with different ways to set up / install GRUB, including installing it on pretty much every hard drive in the machine.

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ both debian and arch have issues as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Smith" To: "CHUGALUG" Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:40:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Ubuntu help have you possibly tried another distro to see if its just an ubuntu thing? maybe straight debian? On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Aaron welch wrote= : alling nstall ng me mad for 6 he =C2=A0I

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rod, $deity-love you, but you have got to start making sense... Debian and Arch have issues with what? Regards, dtb

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ Did this already and no dice. I have to use the install disk to boot the machine at all right now. -AW

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ Ding. WTF?!?

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ It is a Cassandra thing. I just need the write performance, data durability is distributed amongst the cluster. I would not normally even consider doing this and would castrate someone at the mention of it. -AW

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ What were are talking about. The fakeraid issue. The first thing I found about it were from their lists & wikis. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ Just to reiterate, this has nothing to do with FakeRAID. I am using the LINUX software RAID as suggested by the docs you keep linking to. The issue is that the drive with the MBR is not booting. Part of me wonders if there is a magical GPT table that something is not telling me about on that disk. -AW

=============================================================== From: Dan Lyke ------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:47:14 -0500 Erik Hanson wrote: Yeah, this sounds like the problem is that the BIOS isn't finding the boot loader (as Aaron seems to be aware). I'd boot with the LiveCD and start re-installing Grub with all of the possible debug options on. Dan

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wait a minute.... you said 10.10.... it was either 10.04 or 10.10 that I had the magic drive re-arranging kernel... man, was that a pain in the ar$e to figure out... Install grub to every *disk* and every *partition* you can. If you can get to the GRUB menu, you can muck about a bit more and see if that is what is happening. I had drives shift from a kernel update, I believe it was a mixed PATA/SATA system at the time. Pre-update the PATA was /dev/sda and the SATA was /dev/sdb, post-update, these were reversed. Actually, I'm seeing this a lot in the Win world too, drive letters are different when booting off CD than from system drive.... even with GPT signatures on them. Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4wcoMACgkQABP1RO+tr2SwVQCeN1rdX1vlMcdFT8GJvq8W57HW 1+AAoJGcIL8Xdbf0TtJ/ujXYan4IE6d1 =1uwM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Aaron welch ------------------------------------------------------ So it had to be something with Ubuntu and grub since Debian 5.0 (Lenny) worked right off the bat. -AW

=============================================================== From: Ryan Macy ------------------------------------------------------ Video driver I think, hit the hotkeys to do a terminal safemode boot at grub and see if you can get into term? I had a similar issue like this and thats what got me to work, when I got into term I got rid of the nvidia drivers and voila