Chad is banned

From: Chad Smith 
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I am posting this, and then I am evoking a self-imposed ban from Chugalug
for an indeterminate amount of time.  Could be an hour - could be a day -
could be forever.

You all know - full well - exactly what I meant about the blinking lights
thing.  Every one of you is staring at shiny blinking lights *RIGHT NOW* as
you read this - even on your ALL POWERFUL, PERFECTLY GUI'ed LINUX BOXEN.

None of you are using a typewriter - none of you are using a TTY (Which btw,
HAS A SCREEN).

When you bitch about Mac OS X being "Oh Shiny" or having "Blinking lights
for children" - you are being a complete idiot. Linux distros - whether
Command Line or full desktop - use SHINY BLINKING LIGHTS as to display
information.

You are wrong.  I am right, and you all know it.  You knew exactly what I
meant the first time I said it, and yet you keep "cleverly" coming up with
ancient useless examples - THAT NEVER ONCE USED A LINE OF LINUX CODE - of
machines (you could hardly call any of them actual computers) - that didn't
have a screen.  And then you accuse me of beating a dead horse.

Not everyone on this list - but everyone of you who stubbornly refused to
acknowledge my point - you are being a jerk and an idiot.  You aren't smart.
 You aren't clever.  You aren't proving your point.  You are being an ass.

- Chad W Smith
"I like a man who's middle name is W." - President George W. Bush - February
10, 2003 bit.ly/gwb-dubya

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ Does this really need to be posted to the Lug? As a side note, this email reminded me of this video a friend sent me the other day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc

=============================================================== From: wes ------------------------------------------------------ any time you point a finger at someone, there are 3 more pointing back at yourself. -wes

=============================================================== From: Bobby ------------------------------------------------------ OT /trollface

=============================================================== From: Cameron Kilgore ------------------------------------------------------ *clicks mute* --Cameron

=============================================================== From: James Nylen ------------------------------------------------------ Goodnight sweet prince. We'll miss your asininity.

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ TTY means teletype which is short fort teletypewriter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletypewriter A true teletype has no screen. There are folk on this list who have used computers without screens. Thankfully even I had a crude crt terminal. PS breathe chad. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chad Smith" To: "CHUGALUG" Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:35:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Chugalug] Chad is banned None of you are using a typewriter - none of you are using a TTY (Which btw, HAS A SCREEN). When you bitch about Mac OS X being "Oh Shiny" or having "Blinking lights for children" - you are being a complete idiot. Linux distros - whether Command Line or full desktop - use SHINY BLINKING LIGHTS as to display information. You are wrong. I am right, and you all know it. You knew exactly what I meant the first time I said it, and yet you keep "cleverly" coming up with ancient useless examples - THAT NEVER ONCE USED A LINE OF LINUX CODE - of machines (you could hardly call any of them actual computers) - that didn't have a screen. And then you accuse me of beating a dead horse.

=============================================================== From: Nancy Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ Oh my gosh, that made me laugh! Here I was thinking the Princess needed an inordinate amount of external validation... Princess ---------------------- Nancy Harrison EverythingJustSo.com 701 Broad St., Ste. 201 Chattanooga, TN 37402 423-280-7582 --- Message: 93 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:35:16 -0500 From: Chad Smith Subject: [Chugalug] Chad is banned To: CHUGALUG Message-ID:

=============================================================== From: Gary Hasty ------------------------------------------------------ not you, princess...your perfect the way you are... external validation...

=============================================================== From: Nancy Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ The lights come on And the lights go out The lights come on And they're blinkin' all about now maybe it'll get outta my head. Princess ---------------------- Nancy Harrison EverythingJustSo.com 701 Broad St., Ste. 201 Chattanooga, TN 37402 423-280-7582

=============================================================== From: Dee Holtsclaw ------------------------------------------------------ So sorry but ... can't stop myself. I am well aware that my current environment (florescent lights) is constantly flickering between light and darkness but my persistence of vision keeps this from annoying the crap out of me. The refresh rate of my monitor is not a problem for the same reason. I do have several GVIM sessions active at the moment, but I only see "blinking" when one of those has input focus. Even that is not "seen" most of the time since I'm usually looking elsewhere at documentation, notes, etc. (or starting out into space) while hacking code. The only way one can definitely state that I (or anyone else) is "staring at blinking lights right now" is to include things which are not consciously perceived. Since the original comment was in regard to things which *are* consciously perceived (and, IMHO, annoying as hell), this statement must, in that context, be false.

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ Well.....bye So sorry but ... can't stop myself. I am well aware that my current environment (florescent lights) is constantly flickering between light and darkness but my persistence of vision keeps this from annoying the crap out of me. The refresh rate of my monitor is not a problem for the same reason. I do have several GVIM sessions active at the moment, but I only see "blinking" when one of those has input focus. Even that is not "seen" most of the time since I'm usually looking elsewhere at documentation, notes, etc. (or starting out into space) while hacking code. The only way one can definitely state that I (or anyone else) is "staring at blinking lights right now" is to include things which are not consciously perceived. Since the original comment was in regard to things which *are* consciously perceived (and, IMHO, annoying as hell), this statement must, in that context, be false.

=============================================================== From: Chris Mowery ------------------------------------------------------ Though he doesn't always state it.... tactfully, Chad's point in this discussion is understandable. The community around this user group is big into the spirit of hacking and tinkering. The thought that it is too much trouble to learn how to turn off the Dock on Mac OS is pretty silly considering the type of fiddling most of us do at the command line for fun. Just my two cents. Chris

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ Completely untrue. Every pixel on your screen is an individual light. Every time something appears to "move" on your screen - or even change colors - it is a series of lights blinking either on and off, or from one color to the next. Even opening this email to look at it caused literally thousands of lights to blink in front of your face. Those changes are completely within the realm of your conscious perception. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to use your monitor at all, because you would remain unaware of any changes taking place on the screen. - Chad W Smith "I like a man who's middle name is W." - President George W. Bush - February 10, 2003 bit.ly/gwb-dubya

=============================================================== From: Billy ------------------------------------------------------ What is really silly is that there is a focused discussion about blinky ligh= ts. Who cares? Now, when it turned into a troll feeding frenzy, NOW that was entertainment.= --b

=============================================================== From: Chris Mowery ------------------------------------------------------ Apparently a lot of people care considering the continued postings.

=============================================================== From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" ------------------------------------------------------ ACHTUNG! Alles touristen und non-technischen peepers! Das machine control is nicht fur gerfinger-poken und mittengrabben. Oderwise is easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowen fuse, und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Der machine is diggen by experten only. Is nicht fur geverken by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseenen keepen das cotten picken hands in das pockets, so relaxen und watchen das blinkenlights. lights. ent.

=============================================================== From: Kenneth Ratliff ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Every time something appears to "move" on your screen - or even change = colors - it is a series of lights blinking either on and off, or from = one color to the next. Even opening this email to look at it caused = literally thousands of lights to blink in front of your face. Those = changes are completely within the realm of your conscious perception. = Otherwise you wouldn't be able to use your monitor at all, because you = would remain unaware of any changes taking place on the screen. While I'm certainly a fan of tenacity, the fact that you allow yourself = to continue to be trolled over this subject is just sad. Posting a self = imposed exile thread that lasts all of what, 20 minutes, compounds that. Everytime I say something in response to you, I feel a little dirtier, = because I'm enabling your child-like need for attention, any kind of = attention. I will endeavor in the future to avoid giving the drunk a = drink. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOIJILAAoJEDSV5GS4KsJ4wIcH/RQiKB7UPZnWjb7zXkVxMX/C ZbGDRL74EUM02kHrnSBCl1IdSliU2FHsihzp5MoXCp8X/7+FPJYQ8DxGad+eyAal rNgf+PfLnbr2fFPYK0phRif2BjFkQlzn/gVXgWURQHrCMzXhJyoKiRscgguPDuWW wetqajcTSGa4ySzyP6zInxyjUjIuhwyMonVHuI4o2xNFNL4sOzSzIp/FbajLuYka Kg/UfZ6xwC/xHTOSpptB9ZdwwS/ikGi3eVSrayzJu1f3VskBgd+JwwUz8c04kj1T 8WqkSz/u7CVYek+TPQkrdrzhoRApNY32oW8wNjrgVOhdn3Plc0tREroj8T8q1BA=3D =3D6eZj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ 3 hours - and I said it may only last an hour. But I now have all Chugalug email bypassing my inbox. I just saw that a lot of people were responding to my post, and they weren't just saying "thank goodness". This is a problem I have: http://xkcd.com/386/ - Chad W Smith "I like a man who's middle name is W." - President George W. Bush - February 10, 2003 bit.ly/gwb-dubya

=============================================================== From: Cameron Kilgore ------------------------------------------------------ Personally i'm disappointed that Chad is or isn't leaving. He seemed pretty cool when he wasn't flustered. I'd buy that man a beer. The fact that you or you aren't leaving over an internet argument seems immature. Not child immature, congress[man, woman] immature. Come on now. Get up from your desk, walk around the building, drink a Caprisun, and start another topic. Or, keep filtering your emails to the trash, which as we both know allows you to view them when a supplicant conversation starts. That's right, you'll be back! THEY ALWAYS COME BACK! --Cameron

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ Chad will always be around, and I both loathe that fact AND am pleased by it. We have a need for Chad.

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Princess, when I can dry the tears from my eyes from laughing so hard... I do believe I owe you an adult beverage of your choice... Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4gsuMACgkQABP1RO+tr2TmrACfdek1xd5pn6uu7Ob+2kdJO3Fq XEoAn13qUwwFp6Rdf+eItpQJGELAbD/d =8THG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Anyone have a better translation than Google's? Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4gupEACgkQABP1RO+tr2QeRwCfZgD6vhacaLRVkDZ6ufCfscPl VSAAoLxzMitrm8+FZkeZmLNKo9ZWpJ34 =MA0v -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" ------------------------------------------------------ It's supposed to be like that - it's a hacker joke that's about 30 years old now. :)

=============================================================== From: Ryan Macy ------------------------------------------------------ dtb thats because its not really a language, only part of it is german :p ACHTUNG! Alles touristen und non-technischen peepers! Das machine control is nicht fur gerfinger-poken und mittengrabben. Oderwise is easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowen fuse, und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Der machine is diggen by experten only. Is nicht fur geverken by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseenen keepen das cotten picken hands in das pockets, so relaxen und watchen das blinkenlights. ATTENTION: all (dunno) and non technical people the machine control is not finger poking and mitten grabbing. Otherwise its easy snapping the springwork, blownfuse, and pop cork the sparking. the machine is digging by expert only. is not for working by the dumb folk. The rubber neck sightseeing keeps the cotten picking hands in the pocket, s= o relaxing watching the blinking lights. Well thats my go at it, I think he is making fun of chads mental light blinking problem. On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yeah, we're just gonna pretend I didn't have that old fart moment and not recognize it, even after translated. Or I'll submit it for horse-beating if any want to pick it up, but I'm gonna go eat dinner with the girls :) Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4gxi4ACgkQABP1RO+tr2Rr0ACgldk4b9UduGaEcsXx6VEcHB2L rjEAoKKnsCLRzAOEP2/4PRoL658/esr8 =9PcE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Ryan Macy ------------------------------------------------------ Lol the horse beating will commence :)

=============================================================== From: Sidney Hale ------------------------------------------------------ For a self imposed ban, you still bitch an awful lot. February wrote: to imposed drink.