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Should we fork Debian over systemd?

From: Rod-Lists 
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"Who are you?!

We are Veteran Unix Admins and we are concerned about what is happening to Debian GNU/Linux to the point of considering a fork of the project.

And why would you do that?

Some of us are upstream developers, some professional sysadmins: we are all concerned peers interacting with Debian and derivatives on a daily basis.
We don't want to be forced to use systemd in substitution to the traditional UNIX sysvinit init, because systemd betrays the UNIX philosophy.
We contemplate adopting more recent alternatives to sysvinit, but not those undermining the basic design principles of "do one thing and do it well" with a complex collection of dozens of tightly coupled binaries and opaque logs.

Are there better solutions than forking?

Yes: vote Ian Jackson's proposal to preserve freedom of choice of init systems.
Then make sure sysvinit stays the default for now, systemd can be optional.
Debian leaders can go on evaluating more init systems, just not impose one that ignores the needs of most of its users."

read more at
http://debianfork.org/

Android Video Chat

From: "Robert A. Kelly III" 
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What apps do you use/recommend for video chat on Android? Obviously, I
prefer free software and open standards. I'm trying Linphone and it
looks good, but wanted to see what other people thought.
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Scripting Android (CyanogenMod)

From: "Robert A. Kelly III" 
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Does anyone know a way to automatically run a command or script when
Android (specifically CyanogenMod) establishes an internet connection?
For that matter, can you get it to automatically connect to any
available open wifi network?
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=?windows-1252?q?Open_Chattanooga_Hack_Night_=96_Mesh_?= =?windows-1252?q?Network_Party!?=

From: Mike Harrison 
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On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Sean Brewer  wrote:
> We'll use off-the-shelf hardware to build a mesh network isolated from th=
e internet. Curious to see how it works, applications of it, or maybe test =
an idea you have? Come on by!

Which hardware/software are you using/supporting ? I will probably not be a=
ble to make it, but I have a collection of gear that might be useful. I=92l=
 like to setup a downtown mesh network if I had someone else to connect to.=
 We are at 701 Broad, 2nd floor. Not line of sight to the library, but if w=
e could bounce a few other people or use bigger/directional antennas we cou=
ld get a nice downtown mesh up and running. I=92d even donate use of =93cha=
ttmetro.net=94. It would be interesting to make it an =93anonymous encrypte=
d darknet=94 with multiple entry/exit points. A couple of =93library/pirate=
=94 boxes on the net would be useful. =


Ok.. so I rambled.. sorry.. =







=?utf-8?q?Open_Chattanooga_Hack_Night_=E2=80=93_Mesh_N?= =?utf-8?q?etwork_Party!?=

From: Sean Brewer 
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Special hack night: James McNutt and Jake Brown will show us how how to
build a mesh network, which they will also be demonstrating at MozFest in
London later this week!

During periods of civil unrest like the Arab Spring, civilians organized
and spoke openly on social media, and subsequently the involved governments
sought to limit access to the internet. In a typical model with an ISP,
this is as easy as cutting a cord. Mesh networking doesn't allow for this
because it's never reliant on a single point of access, it heals itself if
a point in the mesh goes down, access to local resources on the mesh always
remains open, it=E2=80=99s open source and freely available, and accessible=
 by
anyone with WiFi.

We'll use off-the-shelf hardware to build a mesh network isolated from the
internet. Curious to see how it works, applications of it, or maybe test an
idea you have? Come on by!

There will be food!

The event will be this Tuesday (October 21st) on the 4th Floor of the
Chattanooga Public Library downtown at 5:30pm.

RSVP here: https://www.facebook.com/events/302582936612674/

or just show up.